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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (10 January 2011)
Curious: First mention of the Fisher King concept happens when Rand is dreaming, still half-sick, in the back of Bunt's wagon.BRANDON SANDERSON
Is this our first Lews Therin moment? Bunt wouldn't have mentioned it, and neither would have Ishamael. Unless it's actually something Thom said.TEREZ
I assumed was a True Dream, including Thom's connection to the queen, and Rand & Tam with the sword.TEREZ
But the first Lews Therin moment was in chapter nine when Rand recognized Shayol Ghul (and maybe Ishamael too).MATT HATCH
I'd say Ishamael recognition is a fact in chapter nine. There are some nice comparisons with the prologue.BRANDON SANDERSON
Well, you probably have a point there. Though you might argue that this is a shade of Lews Therin speaking to him, for the first time.TEREZ
I might, but I wouldn't. :D It's more interesting to me the other way, and Rand didn't dream Lews Therin's dreams much.TEREZ
He remarked on the strangeness of it in The Path of Daggers before Lews Therin came back (after having been chased away by Cadsuane).BRANDON SANDERSON
Wait. What?TEREZ
I remembered it wrong. Lord of Chaos 19: 'Lews Therin's dreams. That had never happened before, not dreaming the man's dreams.'TEREZ
In A Crown of Swords 41 while Lews Therin is gone, Rand still hears the voice in a dream.BRANDON SANDERSON
Oh, I see what you're saying. (I think.) Is your argument this: "Lews Therin doesn't talk to Rand in dreams. Therefore, this isn't Lews Therin?"LUCKERS
I think deep down her argument is probably more 'Lews Therin doesn't talk to Rand at all'. ;)TEREZ
Whether Lews Therin really talks to Rand at all or not, this would be quite atypical & strange. As Thom? Why?LUCKERS
Why would Lews Therin speak as Thom? The moustaches baby, the moustaches.BRANDON SANDERSON
Curious. So who do you think is speaking to Rand the Fisher King words, if it's not a Lews Therin memory?TEREZ
It's a dream. Why does there have to be a 'real' ;) person involved?TEREZ
But I do appreciate the hint. :) [That is, the hint that Lews Therin was also one with the land, and was aware of it. This might be what Brandon was getting at with his Easter egg thing.]BRANDON SANDERSON
I don't normally dream things that happen to be word-for-word true prophecies. Rand's not a Dreamer. He got the info somewhere.TEREZ
Now I'm going to cry. :( Why can't Rand be a Dreamer?? So chapter nine was completely fabricated by Ishamael? That is weird.TEREZ
None of the other dreams influenced by Ishamael were anything like that. How did he create all of those people in Tar Valon?TEREZ
Why would Ishamael first prevent Rand from reaching Tar Valon, and then force him to go to the Tower? Makes no sense. :(BRANDON SANDERSON
Lol. I'm not sure if you're being serious or not. Is there some theory on Rand being a Dreamer that I should know?TEREZ
I'm being serious. There's a hint Asmodean's warding might prevent True Dreams. Also...TEREZ
Egwene was guided to it, but Rand had no one to guide him if he was a Dreamer. And everything in The Eye of the World nine was true.BRANDON SANDERSON
Either it's Lews Therin, it's something someone told him in the real world, or it's Ishamael giving him the info.TEREZ
Maybe he had heard The Karaethon Cycle from Thom at fireside on the way to Baerlon, though. Would make sense.TEREZ
Well, not on the way to Baerlon, since he mentions them for the first time in Baerlon. But maybe on the Spray.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'll entertain an argument that it's basically 'known' information, or that Thom mentioned it.LUCKERS
Did you see my cultural idea? That it might be Rand's subconscious—like the way everyone knows the Dark One's name?BRANDON SANDERSON
But it really seems like a memory, and we've never seen people mentioning it, while naming the Dark One we see.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'll look up answers on this one for sure; right now, I'm just speaking by instinct. But I read the Fisher King concept as...BRANDON SANDERSON
...coming from Lews Therin/Rand's subconscious and being fed through Thom's mouth as Rand's mind fit it into the dream.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'm also pretty sure Rand's not a Dreamer, though he does have uncommon power over his dreams.BRANDON SANDERSON
But he does not see specific prophecies in his dreams (other than a few debatable moments) nor enter Tel'aran'rhiod spontaneously.BRANDON SANDERSON
But I'll look into it. I rebel against it because Dreaming is basically Egwene's thing.TEREZ
Also, didn't Perrin pretty much just show her that it wasn't HER thing any more? :pTEREZ
And yeah, I know his prophetic dreams only happen in Tel'aran'rhiod. But I just want a male Dreamer dangit!BRANDON SANDERSON
Perrin does something different. Also, Egwene was caught off guard and had been spending a lot of time lately doing other things.BRANDON SANDERSON
It would be unwise to assume that Perrin is better at Tel'aran'rhiod than she is because of that moment. He had just spent weeks training...BRANDON SANDERSON
...specifically to fight like that in Tel'aran'rhiod, while Egwene has been forced to fight other fights and let herself get a tad rusty.TEREZ
haha, yeah I know. I have argued much the same against Egwene-haters. I did enjoy that moment though.TEREZ
Why do all the prophets have to be female? Foretelling I can see because of the taint, but the rest? Except Perrin.TEREZ
The Thom dream used to make me think I was missing something, or maybe a deleted scene. Very odd.TEREZ
Also, even with the taint seems like we should have had a male Foretelling by now, or a dreamer. Something.BRANDON SANDERSON
Well, out of fondness, I'll let you know that I DO know of at least one male (other than Perrin) who can see the future.TEREZ
lol. The male Aelfinn?BRANDON SANDERSON
Dang. You're too clever. Okay, then, I promise you there's actually a man—human—who meets your requirements.Footnote
In retrospect, it seems most likely that RJ did in fact pare down Thom's earlier conversation about the prophecies (in The Eye of the World Chapter 13, or in another place), not wanting to give too much away. The dream in Chapter 34 should have been a recollection of what Thom had told him. It's possible that Brandon was correct and it had something to do with Lews Therin, but I find it unlikely for many reasons (some covered in the conversation). Also worth noting is that in the previous chapter, during Rand's fever dreams, Thom mentioned the Black Ajah, which had not previously been mentioned to Rand on screen. Also, this hint from Brandon was the first of many concerning the male prophet; the other clues make it pretty clear that Moridin is a Dreamer.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (8 April 2011)
This might be old news, but people keep asking me about it. Yes there ARE Dreamers among the Forsaken. Male and female.AUSTIN MOORE
One male AND one female Forsaken are Dreamers?BRANDON SANDERSON
There are multiple Dreamers. At least one male and at least one female.Footnote
This might have been in response to the previous conversation about Moghedien. She and Lanfear are the top candidates for the female Dreamers, and Moridin is the obvious choice for the men, since skill in Tel'aran'rhiod and skill in invading others' dreams seem to be concurrent with the Talent of prophetic dreams. See here for more details.Tags
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Interview: Jun 16th, 1995
East of the Sun Con - Karl-Johan Norén (Paraphrased)Robert Jordan
On Dreamers, Dreamwalkers and prophetic dreams he said that the ability to interpret one's dreams, enter Tel'aran'rhiod and meddle with other people's dreams were different Talents.Tags
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Interview: Nov 14th, 2000
SciFi.com Chat (Verbatim)Ran
Are Dreaming and Dreamwalking essentially just different names for the same Talent, or are they separate Talents that often occur together? The illustrated guide seemed to confuse the issue somewhat.Robert Jordan
No. They're very different. A Dreamwalker can enter dreams. But a Dreamer only "understands" dreams, though Dreamwalkers are generally Dreamers, too.Tags
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Interview: Jan 20th, 2006
Robert Jordan's Blog: IT'S BEEN AWHILE (Verbatim)Robert Jordan
For NapoleonCoplin, the part of a Dreamer that enters Tel'aran'rhiod can be thought of as the Dreamer's consciousness, but it is any case not corporate. That is, it has no physical reality outside of Tel'aran'rhiod. A Dreamer might make a gateway from the Unseen World to the Waking World, but there would be nothing physical that could step through and exist outside of the Unseen World.Tags
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Interview: Nov 19th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Samadai (Paraphrased)SteelBlaidd
Did Egwene squeeze Moghedien for information on the Dream World?Brandon Sanderson
That was our First MAFO (Maria And Find Out).
He also said that Egwene is a powerful Dreamer and it seems unlikely that she didn't squeeze her for the information.
MARIA SIMONS (VIA LUCKERS)
This one is basic enough that I feel pretty confident that Egwene would have certainly asked Moghedien about Tel'aran'rhiod. Egwene threatened to execute Moghedien if she lied; I would think that with the knowledge that Egwene gained from the Aiel Wise Ones she might use that as the occasional test, and see where it went. I think that Egwene asked Moghedien about pretty much anything that popped in her head.
FOOTNOTE—LUCKERS
Maria claims the right to amend this later.
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Interview: Oct 9th, 2010
Ted Herman
Can a Dreamer access Tel'aran'rhiod if trapped by an a'dam?
Brandon Sanderson
At first, Brandon said yes, but then he qualified that with 90% chance of yes.
Footnote
In 2013, Maria stated that there was nothing in the notes on this, but she believes one cannot touch Tel'aran'rhiod while collared.Tags
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Interview: Oct 9th, 2010
Ted Herman
Can a Dreamer access Tel'aran'rhiod if trapped by the 'Finns?
Brandon Sanderson
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Interview: Nov 2nd, 2010
TOM Signing Report - Matt Hatch (Paraphrased)Matt Hatch
Can someone without the Talent for Dreamwalking or Dreaming, but with access to Tel'aran'rhiod through a ter'angreal be taught to find dreams?Brandon Sanderson
As far as I know, no. That's an 80%.
The question they should be asking is could Perrin (be taught to find dreams)?
Matt Hatch
Can he?Brandon Sanderson
I don't think so.Matt Hatch
Well, what he can do is similar to Dreaming and Dreamwalking.Brandon Sanderson
But the wolves don't know about them.Matt Hatch
Well...Brandon Sanderson
I'm not sure, but that's what I would be asking (paraphrased).Tags
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Interview: Apr 15th, 2011
JordanCon Report - Ted Herman (Paraphrased)Question
Do individuals with Talents not directly related to channeling such as Sniffing, Wolfsiblings or Dreaming need trainers to help them discover that they have these Talents?Alan Romanczuk
No, the people will still be able to use their Talents eventually, but not at as refined a level as if they had been trained.Tags
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Interview: May 30th, 2011
Amsterdam Pancakes and Fries Report - jarno87 (Paraphrased)jarno87
Brandon made some nice remarks on prophecies. Knowing we wouldn't get anything specific he was asked about some general questions. Someone asked whether the differences between the Seanchan prophecies and The Karaethon Cycle were completely intentional, or just from natural changes in telling a story for a thousand years from generation to generation.
Brandon Sanderson
Brandon said it was a bit of both. He compared it with the story of Beowulf, how a scribe creating a new copy would change one line to make it more Christian, or to make their interpretation more clear. This combined with some influence by the Dark One and his minions make it complicated. He added that it is not that one of the two is true and the other false. They might be on some things, on others both can be true even if it seems to be a contradiction. It's all in the interpretation of the prophecies which is a tricky business. He also remarked that the Darkfriends also have their prophecies, Foretellings and Dreamers, whose predictions are just as valid as the ones from the Light. Being dark prophecies doesn't invalidate them.Tags
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Interview: Apr 17th, 2011
Driving Mr. Sanderson - Terez (Verbatim)Terez
Demandred mentions that the sleepweavers are used to train beginners in Tel'aran'rhiod. Can any channeler be trained to enter without a ter'angreal (eventually) or is a certain amount of Talent required?Brandon Sanderson
(long silence) I believe...I'll give you a percentage on these. If I say, "I believe", it means, "this is my understanding, but, um..."
Terez
Right, the asterisk.
Brandon Sanderson
There's an asterisk on it. And most of my understanding is informed by the notes and what I've read, but I often get things mixed up. So, I'm going to say on a 75% surety, not everybody can be trained to enter without a ter'angreal eventually, and some talent is required, but there are some who can...there is a middle ground between, for instance, Egwene, and somebody who can't at all.
Terez
Like Aran'gar, who obviously has hardly any talent at all, but she can get into people's dreams.
Brandon Sanderson
Yeah. So, there is a middle ground. But I don't believe everybody can.
Terez
Have all of the Forsaken been trained to do this or do some of them have to use gateways to get there?
Brandon Sanderson
In choosing the Forsaken—and this one is actually, um...I am quoting sources that you don't have access to, but I do...
Terez
Right.
Brandon Sanderson
In choosing the Forsaken, the Dark One was careful...um, the very nature of it led to people with great talent in many areas being chosen. They are extraordinary in many areas, and having talents that others do not have, beyond being powerful channelers.
Terez
We're talking about the thirteen that were at Shayol Ghul...
Brandon Sanderson
Yeah. ...This is what led to them being at the top of the heap. That said, I do believe that, among the Forsaken, there are some who had to use gateways to get there...but the majority of the Forsaken are very talented in many areas.
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Interview: Apr 17th, 2011
Driving Mr. Sanderson - Terez (Verbatim)Terez (herid)
When you said some Forsaken are Dreamers, you meant they have prophetic dreams, right? Or are they just Dreamwalkers?Brandon Sanderson
I did mean Dreamers. People have been trying to pin me down on that one.
Terez
Yeah, everybody has been like convinced that you were just confused...
Brandon Sanderson
...that I was just confused. No. I meant Dreamers. I DID INDEED MEAN DREAMERS.
Terez
I know you did, but...just verifying.
Brandon Sanderson
Yeah. And I’m like 95% on that one. We’ll put an asterisk on it. I actually sent Maria deeper into the notes, but I know at least one is, and I’m pretty sure one of each gender is.
Footnote
The most likely candidates seem to be Moridin, Cyndane, and Moghedien, who are undeniably the most skilled at getting into people's dreams and using Tel'aran'rhiod. These talents seem to go together, and all three of them are still alive as of Towers of Midnight (out of five remaining Forsaken).Tags
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Interview: Jan 12th, 2011
SLC Signing Report - Matt Hatch (Paraphrased)Matt Hatch
Is Lanfear a Dreamer?Brandon Sanderson
I lend a lot of credence to the theory that at least one of the Forsaken is or was a Dreamer.
Matt Hatch
I did my best to just get him to tell us straight up that one IS, actually that more than one is a Dreamer. But he persisted in using the above language.
Footnote
He did confirm that later.Tags
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Interview: Sep 22nd, 2012
Orem Signing Report - Zas (Verbatim)Loialson
Mat's dice in his head. Are they real? Do they come from Sindhol? Are they from his ta'veren nature, or is it just a plot device? (laughter)Brandon Sanderson
Everything that I've read in the notes indicates that they are from his ta'veren nature, and that they are a manifestation of being ta'veren [?] related to his [?]
Loialson
One of Perrin's manifestations, visions in the Wolf Dream...
Brandon Sanderson
Partially. Perrin's manifestation is also...he draws to him things that he needs; what he needs comes to Perrin. That's actually his primary manifestation of being ta'veren.
Loialson
So what's the difference between what Perrin does and what Egwene does?
Brandon Sanderson
Oh boy. Can I get into this? They are similar, but not the same. What Egwene does is partially a Talent of the Power, and it's related to the Power. And Perrin is not.
Loialson
Is it [?] him being a Wolfbrother?
Brandon Sanderson
Yes.
Loialson
[?] if he chose to.
Brandon Sanderson
It is related to him being a Wolfbrother.
Loialson
Why can the wolves not see it?
Brandon Sanderson
I honestly don't remember the answer to that.
Loialson
That's okay...
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Interview: Jan 9th, 2013
AMOL Signing Report - Marie Curie (Paraphrased)Marie Curie
We found out in Knife of Dreams that some of the Forsaken (most especially Moridin) are able to 'read' the Pattern to locate ta'veren, for example. How (or where) do they 'read' the Pattern? Do they use Tel'aran'rhiod? Or the Gap of Infinity?Brandon Sanderson
I don't know. (Brandon looks at Maria)
Maria Simons
I don't know. It might be in the notes.
Footnote
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Interview: Apr 20th, 2013
JordanCon 2013 - Q&A with Maria (Verbatim)Terez
In The Dragon Reborn, Perrin sees Ishamael, Rahvin, and Be'lal in a place that looks like the Ways—and of course we see that place in The Eye of the World, in the boys' dreams too—is that a construct that Ishamael makes in Tel'aran'rhiod?Maria Simons
I am assuming so, but again, I don't know.
Terez
I got the impression (because of this conversation) that Brandon kinda tried to explain that one.
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