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  • 1

    Interview: Jul 19th, 2005

    Week 21 Question

    One thing that's always confused me is just why Dashiva/Osan'gar chose to attack Rand (with the turncoat Asha'man) when he did. The last time we saw Rand with Dashiva before that was when they went together (with Flinn, Hopwil and Morr) to confront Cadsuane, and there didn't seem to be any one particular incident that would "set him off."

    Robert Jordan

    Partly this was guilty conscience working. Even people who don't have a conscience can have a guilty conscience, the sudden conviction—as when Rand came on Dashiva and the others—that somebody knows what they are up to. Add to this that Dashiva was plain getting tired of trailing around after Rand, taking orders. He's one of the Chosen, and the Dark One reclaimed him from death, which is really good, but he's been stuck in a decidedly second-rate body and stuck spying on Rand, fetching and carrying like a servant as he sees it, with hardly even an opportunity to put a spoke in Rand's wheels except in very minor ways. How much better if Rand simply died.

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  • 2

    Interview: 2011

    Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)

    Luckers (10 January 2011)

    I wonder if Whitebridge is made of spinglass. Does anyone have an answer?

    TEREZ

    I always took 'spinglass' to be a WoT way of saying 'spun glass'. Very fragile. Also...

    TEREZ

    'The man opened his mouth to protest as citizens always did; they seemed to think Aiel were made of spinglass'.

    TEREZ

    Obviously fragile is what he's getting at. Now, if you could do it like cuendillar...that's different.

    TEREZ

    Per Moghedien I get the impression there are many forms of cuendillar. Maybe iron is easiest.

    LUCKERS

    That's a good point—I missed the spinglass = fragile reference. As for cuendillar... perhaps.

    LUCKERS

    There is an argument in the same vein towards Callandor being cuendillar.

    TEREZ

    Well, people argued Callandor=cuendillar because it stopped balefire. But if Perrin can do it... :)

    LUCKERS

    There was also Osan'gar's comment during the cleansing that though the Choedan Kal would be destroyed...

    LUCKERS

    ... he'd still have Callandor. Of course he could have meant to balefire Rand and attack Narishma. Still, weird.

    KRIT PETTY

    Callandor is the most powerful sa'angreal without the Choedan Kal. He might just be noting the fact.

    LUCKERS

    It's the expectation that he would have Callandor after he balefired the hill which is significant.

    TEREZ

    He didn't say he was going to balefire the whole hill. Elza got his hill, though. ;)

    TEREZ

    Strongest Rand could manage with fat man was man-thick. He could sweep it, but it's not necessary.

    LUCKERS

    I did make that point, but it's weird, risking Narishma's response to the attack.

    LUCKERS

    Rand was distracted, why not kill Narishma first, then Rand. Also Osan'gar links the balefire to...

    LUCKERS

    ... Rand's death—"But still, he could take Callandor after al'Thor was dead."—as if it's a result.

    TEREZ

    I read it as him seeing Rand as the only real threat.

    LUCKERS

    Which is weird, in itself. Callandor circle responding to reversed webs—a scary, and impossible thing for someone from the Age of Legends.

    TEREZ

    True, but he might have figured out the ter'angreal thing like Demandred, and he was at point blank range (for balefire).

    RUTH HINCKLEY

    So if the cuendillar Egwene makes is white, why are the seals half black? Saidin-made? Different type of cuendillar?

    TEREZ

    re: black/white, I always figured this was why Elayne couldn't get the colors right with the stone ring (no man).

    Brandon Sanderson (10 January 2011)

    @WoTLuckers @Lironah @Terez27 Now that's an interesting conversation. Re: cuendillar.

    TEREZ

    lol, now I get to catalog the whole conversation because Brandon said it was interesting.

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  • 3

    Interview: Jun 27th, 1996

    AOL Chat 2 (Verbatim)

    Ealgail

    ADMIT IT!!!!!! DASHIVA IS OSAN'GAR111111

    Robert Jordan

    On the advice of my lawyer, I never admit anything. :) Not even to my wife!

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  • 4

    Interview: Oct 12th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    Someone asked Jordan about the 'gars, and mentioned that he'd seen theories that Lanfear was one of the 'gars. I was expecting a RAFO, but RJ gave the guy a disgusted look, and said that "No, Osan'gar and Aran'gar are Aginor and Balthamel." The guy said (I'm paraphrasing here), "You're confirming this, and not hinting about it?" RJ replied (more paraphrasing), "I'm confirming. After all, it's pretty obvious in the books that it's those two. After all, that's what Aginor thought was so funny; Balthamel, the lecher, was stuck in a female body." Jordan then went on to give the standard disclaimer that a lot of the clues are already in the books, and reasonably intelligent people should be able to figure a lot of this out. His job, he said, was to make sure you're still guessing about some stuff at the end of the story.

    It's fairly safe to say that this was Jordan's version of thwacking the guy with a clue stick...

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  • 5

    Interview: Oct 12th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    The Two *gars

    RJ admitted outright that they were Aginor and Balthamel, and that Aginor was the male and Balthamel was the woman. I still feel that Aginor describing himself as "helping" make the Trollocs is not consistent, but hey, I didn't write the books. When I asked him if he was confirming their IDs, RJ said (in a slightly tired tone), "I've never denied it." This was rather surprising to me, to say the least.

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  • 6

    Interview: Oct 9th, 1996

    Question

    Have we seen Osan'gar anywhere else since his first appearance? (No doubt a RAFO)

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

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  • 7

    Interview: Oct 9th, 1996

    Question

    Is Dashiva Osan'gar?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

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  • 8

    Interview: Nov 20th, 1998

    John Nowacki

    One of the regular contributors to the group—I don't recall whom—suggested asking whether Moridin came into existence before or after the 'gars.

    Robert Jordan

    That one earned a quick glance and a RAFO.

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  • 9

    Interview: Aug 27th, 1999

    Robert Jordan

    I'm fairly sure he's done this before, but he said Aginor and Balthamel are Aran'gar and Osan'gar, and he also said that Terry Goodkind actually uses WOT as inspiration, instead of going to a historical source. He sounded serious.

    Finally, he also recommended several authors, but said that the guy who wrote Cryptonomicon was really good.

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  • 10

    Interview: Dec 12th, 2000

    CNN Chat (Verbatim)

    twayne

    When you started writing the series, were Osan'gar and Aran'gar in the original plotline, or were they added in as you went along?

    Robert Jordan

    They were in the original plot line.

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  • 11

    Interview: 2006

    Forsaken Events

    Robert Jordan

    None of the Forsaken know that Osan'gar (Corlan Dashiva) is dead, but they know he's vanished. They are pretty much sure that Sammael is dead, because he isn't the type to remain in hiding, but think Asmodean might well be hiding out until he can figure a way to return safely. They know that Rahvin and Be'lal are dead, though some at least suspect reincarnation as Aran'gar and Osan'gar. Most have worked out that Moridin is Ishamael.

    Footnote

    Aran'gar and Osan'gar are Balthamel and Aginor transmigrated, respectively. Most of the Forsaken we've had in POV seem to have figured that out.

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  • 12

    Interview: Sep 22nd, 2012

    Question

    Why is Dashiva never resurrected? He was killed with a ball of fire by Elza, not balefire....

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yes, I know.

    Loialson

    Why is he dead?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Robert Jordan once said that res...transmigrating a soul had not just to do with the way that they were killed but the time and...not necessarily just a weave, but why and how. [Technically, where and how.] I am not going to delve too much into transmigration. Robert Jordan did speak on these sorts of things. And so, the Dark One also might not think that the person was an asset worth bringing back.

    Loialson

    Dashiva kinda sucks.

    Brandon Sanderson

    I'm not gonna say, but those are all factors in this.

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  • 13

    Interview: Apr 20th, 2013

    Terez

    Why wasn't Osan'gar given another chance, since he wasn't killed by balefire?

    Maria Simons

    I think he had just been so....kind of useless. Why bother? You know...you don't get "three times, you're out"; it's "two times, you're out", you know?

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