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he Time of Illusions is at an End

by Sporkster: 2005-08-17 | 2.23 out of 10 (13 votes)

Previous Categories: Plans of the Dark One

I propose (and this may be a bit shaky, but here I go, proposing it anyways) that the Amayar on Tremalking are not peaceful, Water-way-following happy folk - this is The Illusion.

Instead, they are a hidden colony of Dreadlords, ready to rise up and lead the armies of the Dark One in the Last Battle. The peaceful stuff is an Illusion; the reality is about to be revealed.

Wait, it gets better.

First, let's examine the nature of the Amayar. They are peaceful, and follow the Water Way, which is analagous to the Way of the Leaf:

"The Water Way, while not as pacifistic as the Way of the Leaf, still prizes acceptance of what is rather than what might be wished for. There is a strong strain of belief among them that what we call ‘reality' is not truly real, but only a waypost on the path to another existence. Violence is frowned upon. While young men might get into a fistfight or wrestling match, they would be held up to public shame for it."

--The Big White Book

The premise that reality isn't quite what it seems to be, and that this is only a waypost on the way to a different life...this makes it fairly easy to dismiss any 'suspicious' comments from any Amayar. One might think, "Of course they don't make sense - they think life is an illusion." Well, it is - but the jokes on everyone else!

Also, what better way to disguise a group of bloodthirsty future Dreadlords than to hide them on a peace-loving island that is rarely visited, but close enough to the action to be available on demand?

"A great stone hand stuck out of the ground clasping a clear sphere as large as a house. And that sphere was shining like a glorious summer sun. All thoughts of the Atha'an Miere gone, Timna gathered her cloak and sat down on the ground, smiling to think that she might see the fulfillment of prophecy and the end of Illusion."

--Winter's Heart, With the Choedan Kal

"And on distant Tremalking, the word began to spread that the Time of Illusions was at an end."

--Winter's Heart, With the Choedan Kal

Hmm. Some prophecy seems to be triggered by the activation of the Choedan Kal statue on Tremalking. There is no evidence that this is a Dark Prophecy - but there is no evidence that this is NOT a Dark Prophecy, either. Or even not a prophecy - perhaps the idea was planted by Ishamael in one of his sojourns out of the Bore.

Additionally, the Amayar are "governed" by a rotation of Sea Folk governors, who are so unhappy about being away from the water that they don't focus much on their governed masses, but instead on how to get away from the job. In fact, in Winter's Heart we learn that "even the Sea Folk governors have left Tremalking to search for the Coramoor". Rather conveniently, the End of Illusions is near, leaving the Amayar free to do whatever they wish without anyone noticing.

Another point that emphasizes the shadiness of the Amayar - they are the true source of the Sea Folk porcelain! It's a big lie! Any group of people who contributes to such a scheme is implicated by their cooperation. Also, how do they make such wonderful pottery? Perhaps by using the One Power, which would make sense if Tremalking was full of Porcelain-making Dreadlords!

Finally - and this is the most damning - Alviarin returns from Tremalking in Crossroads of Twilight, not concerned, not worried, and after a significant chunk of time. What was she doing there? And if the End of Illusions is a "good" thing (meaning it benefits the Forces of the Light), why is she not extremely concerned? She is even amused when she considers how the Sea Folk Sister will react to the news from Tremalking.

I expect it would be amusing for Alviarin to observe the reaction of a Sister to the idea that peaceful Tremalking was, in fact, a Dreadlord training camp! If something was stirring that would help the Light, she might be a little more concerned. Also, why else might Mesaana send her as "her message girl" unless there is a Dark Plot afoot on the island?

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Tamyrlin: 2005-10-03

Sporkster, I like your style. Goofy, yet comprehensive, and willing to take a risk on a far out theory...I especially enjoyed the porcelin making dreadlords...lmao. Okay, about the serious part of your theory. I like how you tied in Alviarin's mission to Tremalking. The Amayar didn't really make a blip on my radar reading, but Jordan does make a big deal about the statue. However, I can't imagine how they could or would all be dreadlords, and still remain on some small island in the middle of nowhere. I guess they could have been waiting for a sign, but a whole people being turned...I think it is more interesting to suggest that a dark prophecy, something planted by Ishamael, or someone, is responsible for what the Amayar do. Good first try, but a bit fringe.

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therobotbadger: 2005-10-03

**the Amayar on Tremalking are not peaceful, Water-way-following happy folk - this is The Illusion**

Or, it could be as you later say, that **they think life is an illusion.** I always took the end to the Time of Illusion as meaning the end of the world, or at least the end of an Age, which we know is coming.

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Callandor: 2005-10-04

**Instead, they are a hidden colony of Dreadlords, ready to rise up and lead the armies of the Dark One in the Last Battle. The peaceful stuff is an Illusion; the reality is about to be revealed.**

~raises eyebrow~

Err, ok, looking forward to this one ;)

**Hmm. Some prophecy seems to be triggered by the activation of the Choedan Kal statue on Tremalking. There is no evidence that this is a Dark Prophecy - but there is no evidence that this is NOT a Dark Prophecy, either. Or even not a prophecy - perhaps the idea was planted by Ishamael in one of his sojourns out of the Bore.**

All equally true, except that they're equally true with ideas that the end of Illusions mean the end of the world or some such and now they must engage in non-stop orgies before commiting mass genocide. It's just unknown.

**Also, how do they make such wonderful pottery? Perhaps by using the One Power, which would make sense if Tremalking was full of Porcelain-making Dreadlords!**

Or... they have good pottery skills? ;) Like how the Tinkers can fix and mend pots? Unless you're going to say they're a rabid clan of One Power utilizing Dreadlords as well... ;)

**What was she doing there?**

Very good question -- it's unknown.

**And if the End of Illusions is a "good" thing (meaning it benefits the Forces of the Light), why is she not extremely concerned?**

Because she sees what she wants to see?

**Also, why else might Mesaana send her as "her message girl" unless there is a Dark Plot afoot on the island?**

Dark plots being there doesn't mean the entire island and culture are Darkfriends, let alone Dreadlords.

Very fringe, but I don't buy it.

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Sporkster: 2005-10-04

***** Err, ok, looking forward to this one ;) *********

I thought you might like it, Callandor :-)

*****All equally true, except that they're equally true with ideas that the end of Illusions mean the end of the world or some such and now they must engage in non-stop orgies before commiting mass genocide. It's just unknown.*****

First off, where is YOUR mind at? :-)

Second, yes, it's very true that there is no solid proof FOR this point. It's likely that very few of the points I make, when standing alone, can be defended completely. However, if you take them all together...I feel that the whole is more persuasive than the sum of its parts.

*****Because she sees what she wants to see?*****

Possibly. Everyone has a certain degree of blindness. One would hope that Alviarin, who seems a bit paranoid as a character (hence the "Elaida reaction" upon her return), would be more likely to mistakenly assume a threat, as opposed to mistakenly be blind to one.

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Traveller: 2005-10-04

What can I say? It was a v. interesting read, and deserves a round of applause.

Unfortunately its a bit too far out for me, but how about you start a faction and see how popular it is- it could be quite fascinating.

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JakOShadows: 2005-10-04

It seems to far out there to be true. Yeah, sure, all the evidence you gave could allow for it to happen. But everything is so vage anything could happen. I know several people stated a far more obvious answer, that it was the end of an age, which is what I tend to believe too. It sounds like you are trying to make you theory fit the evidence rather than come up with a logical theory.

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Jiana: 2005-10-04

A well-written theory. I agree though, that too much is unknown. However, it does make me wonder exactly how the Amayar will be incorporated into the LB, and how/if Shara will take part, as well as the Isle of Madmen? I have my own ideas about the Isle of Madmen, but... well, might be a little too "out there" and I'm just too unsure. But if anyone is interested in hearing it, I'm willing to share. :)

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wolfbrother10: 2005-10-06

'You have to watch the quiet one' as they say.

The Amayar have been extremely sheltered and there might be some reasoning to that. Whether it is for the good of the light or the shadow I don't know.

There are many cases of people we don't know about causing huge impact when it comes to the OP; the Aiel, Sea Folk and Seanchan.

The Aiel were not thought as numerous wielders of the OP. The Sea Folk were believed also to not posess many sparker or people with the ability to touch the OP and we know that is not true.

The Aiel have aided the Three Aescateers (Eg, Nyn, Elyn) teaching them dreaming and backing them up in battle against other Wise Ones. But there are the Shaido Wise Ones who rampage Randland.

The Sea Folk aided in the use of the Bowl of Winds among other things, but many of them have been leashed by the Seanchan.

The Seanchan themselves have many damane (sparkers/wilders) and sul'dam (those able to touch the OP) at their disposal. So far they have only been a hinderance to our protagonist and friends with the exception of a few people.

Whose to say that the Amayar are not going to pop up in some huge plot like the one's above have.

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The whole thing with Alviarin on Tremalkin stood out to me a lot but I figured later on that maybe that was to show us that she killed the Mistress of the Ships or whoever the leader of the Atha'an Mier is. (Clarify if anyone knows) However, this still shows us that we should expect something soon from the Amayar and their secrets.