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s Lanfear Alivia?

by Vaughn882: 2003-04-10 | Not yet rated

Previous Categories: What Happened to Lanfear/Cyndane?

Ok, this is not as much as a theory as a suggestion. In fact, I do not believe it myself. I just read Tamyrlin's theory on Lanfear and the Seanchan, and it got me thinking( great theory tam!). My suggestion is that maybe (really big maybe) Lanfear is masquerading as Alivia. I believe that Tamyrlin is right in assuming that Lanfear was with the Seanchan for a time, and in order to fit in with the Seanchan, you must know their ways well. That is why she can pretend to be Alivia. We also know that Lanfear is a great actor, from her performance with Asmodean in the waste, and that she's not afraid to be someone very unlike herself(old or fat).

This also gives a good reason why Min says that Alivia will "help destroy him" or something like that, and this can be done in two ways: she could kill him, which is unlikely; or help him against the Dark One( something i think Alivia will do, whoever she is).

I, like Tamyrlin, think that Lanfear might be necesary to seal the bore, because she is the one who drilled it in the first place. This would also be the reason for Alivia's great power.

Now, for the many implications to this theory. One, why would Lanfear fake not knowing how to use the op in many ways, especially against Graendal(or Cyndane, whoever it was she fought in WH) when it could be a life or death situation? Why, really, doesn't she just kill Rand right away, because now she hates him? And how does this fit in with the situation with her, moiraine, and the finns? As you can see, there are many implications with this theory( and many more than what i listed). Feel free to find more problems and tare this theory to shreds.
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Tamyrlin: 2003-04-14

Well, what do I say to someone who agrees with my positions...well you must be right! :) However, there is one big problem with your theory. You will have to explain who Cyndane is (because it is well accepted that Lanfear is Cyndane). If Lanfear were not Cyndane then the Alivia idea becomes interesting, but you will have to use the text to verify your Cyndane not Lanfear claim. Good Luck.

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Anubis: 2003-04-14

what min says is that alivia will "help him die" in conjuntion with the to live you must die, this is not a bad thing. also alivia says she owes rand anything he asks. she does not display a lanfear like attitude. last time we saw what we knew for absolute sure was lanfear, she was pissed off and trying to kill rand. i cant see her going from one extreem to the other like that

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Fade: 2003-04-15

as an avid Lanfear fan, i would like to agree with you. however i am among the majority that believe Lanfear is now Cyndane. like Anubis said, it is unlikely that she could go from one end of the emotional spectrum to the opposit. the last time we saw Cyndane(WH), she was very angry, and wanted to be the one to kill rand. with out text references that would suggest that lanfear is anyone other than Cyndane, i will stay with the majority. it just seems a little far fetched that Lanfear went to the trouble to be among the damane who were used against rand and his troops, and then allowed herself to be captured, just so she could get close to rand. and she did all of this between FoH and tPoD. that is a very tight timeline to be doing that much indepth work in.

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Vaughn882: 2003-04-16

ok, ok, i don't belive it either, but i like new ideas. Here's another one, that would work with this theory: maybe Cyndane is Asmodean! No, I'm being serious. Well, not really, but it would work. It would go along with the "Last Chance" thing, and it would be funny for the DO to put another man in a woman's body (and smart too, as we can see with Aran'gar). So, i know i may be insultin other's faiths here, but its just an idea.

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Callandor: 2003-04-17

For the last time RJ has said Asmo isnt returning. Hes dead for good.

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ranman38: 2003-07-25

TITLE: Winter's Heart,CHAPTER: 35 - With the Choedan Kal

Then the woman struck back at her, and she suffered her second shock. She was stronger than Cyndane had been before the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn held her!

Cyndane is Lanfear