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Yeah, but she feared that Mat would be "too much like her". So she went looking for someone different, instead.
*evil eye*

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Old 12-10-2015, 06:06 AM
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That evil eye, is that the one he lost or the one he kept?
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Out of curiosity, yks, do you have this same strong contempt for Indiana Jones and Han Solo? Those two characters definitely seem very Mat-like to me. And like Mat, are two other lovable, slightly womanizing, but very honorable rogues.
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not Han Solo. Because he's very honest about the fact that he's a bandit and a scoundrel, he never pretends to be anything else.

But Indiana Jones belongs in a prison. Disgrace to archaeologists everywhere. Turd of a human being as well.
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not Han Solo. Because he's very honest about the fact that he's a bandit and a scoundrel, he never pretends to be anything else.

But Indiana Jones belongs in a prison. Disgrace to archaeologists everywhere. Turd of a human being as well.
I don't think Han is any more up front about his crap than Mat.

Indiana jones on the other hand- he is fighting nazis. Anyone who walks in shit is going to get a little dirt on themselves.
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I don't think Han is any more up front about his crap than Mat.

Indiana jones on the other hand- he is fighting nazis. Anyone who walks in shit is going to get a little dirt on themselves.
Name one time that Han used his superpower to take money off people while whining about how unfair life is.

Indiana Jones says he's an archaeologist and destroys EVERY site he enters. Without keeping any records of it. He's just a looter, not an archaeologist. Besides, just because someone hates Nazis does not make them a good person (or good at their job). I mean, loving the Nazi ideology definitely makes one a bad person but hating it does not make one a good person.

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not Han Solo. Because he's very honest about the fact that he's a bandit and a scoundrel, he never pretends to be anything else.

But Indiana Jones belongs in a prison. Disgrace to archaeologists everywhere. Turd of a human being as well.
Han is a smuggler not a bandit. And I don't recall Mat ever pretending to be the nice boy.
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Name one time that Han used his superpower to take money off people while whining about how unfair life is.

Indiana Jones says he's an archaeologist and destroys EVERY site he enters. Without keeping any records of it. He's just a looter, not an archaeologist. Besides, just because someone hates Nazis does not make them a good person (or good at their job). I mean, loving the Nazi ideology definitely makes one a bad person but hating it does not make one a good person.

Name one time when Mat shot greedo? and first might I add.

Actually, I don't want to start sniping in a silly way. I perfectly understand your dislike for Mat as you explained it to me when I first came on the boards(and I thought you were a dude). It made sense then and it still makes sense.

I do like him because I can look past his faults and to the fact that his chapters were huge high points in books 9 and 10 compared to the rest. his character faults don't impact me in a personal way so it is easy for me to like his bluster and charm.

but I totally respect your dislike of him.
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I don't hate Mat. Probably because under RJ, he was genuinely funny to read about. But I do find him annoying. In real life, I'd never be able to hold back for long before the desire to smack him on the head takes over.
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I don't hate Mat. Probably because under RJ, he was genuinely funny to read about. But I do find him annoying. In real life, I'd never be able to hold back for long before the desire to smack him on the head takes over.
I feel largely the same way... but I still dislike Mat. He is fun to read and his chapters are great but he's still a little shit and IIRC (it's been since the realse of tGS that i've re-read) doesn't really get a lot of character growth besides accepting his generaling skills after like 8 books
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Name one time that Han used his superpower to take money off people while whining about how unfair life is.

Indiana Jones says he's an archaeologist and destroys EVERY site he enters. Without keeping any records of it. He's just a looter, not an archaeologist. Besides, just because someone hates Nazis does not make them a good person (or good at their job). I mean, loving the Nazi ideology definitely makes one a bad person but hating it does not make one a good person.

Indiana Jones reminds me a bit of a romanticized version of Scliemann and Evans. Admittedly, his idea of archaeology would have fit better in the late 19th and very early 20th - basically when Schliemann was active, bulldozing his ways through layers of Troy with reckless abandon to get the right age-stratum, or treasure hunting in Mycenae. You know, the good old days when archaeology was little more than treasure hunting of the Lord Elgin sort, and without which the Louvre would be mostly empty, and the the British Museum completely so.
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Indiana Jones reminds me a bit of a romanticized version of Scliemann and Evans. Admittedly, his idea of archaeology would have fit better in the late 19th and very early 20th - basically when Schliemann was active, bulldozing his ways through layers of Troy with reckless abandon to get the right age-stratum, or treasure hunting in Mycenae. You know, the good old days when archaeology was little more than treasure hunting of the Lord Elgin sort, and without which the Louvre would be mostly empty, and the the British Museum completely so.
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Indiana Jones reminds me a bit of a romanticized version of Scliemann and Evans. Admittedly, his idea of archaeology would have fit better in the late 19th and very early 20th - basically when Schliemann was active, bulldozing his ways through layers of Troy with reckless abandon to get the right age-stratum, or treasure hunting in Mycenae. You know, the good old days when archaeology was little more than treasure hunting of the Lord Elgin sort, and without which the Louvre would be mostly empty, and the the British Museum completely so.
Yeah, but America didn't have anything like the sophistication needed for engaging in archaeology at the time, so Hollywood had to place Indy in the middle 20th century to retain historical accuracy. And, as everyone knows, Hollywood is famous for historical accuracy.
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Keeping in the Mat = Indiana Jones type of character... an interesting tibit is in the "young Indiana Jones chronicles (canon as far as indy lore is concerned) Old man indy is wearing a patch as he lost an eye.

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Keeping in the Mat = Indiana Jones type of character... an interesting tibit is in the "young Indiana Jones chronicles (canon as far as indy lore is concerned) Old man indy is wearing a patch as he lost an eye.

just saying...
Indy also has an irrational fear of snakes. The movies never mention foxes though (that I can remember)
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I feel largely the same way... but I still dislike Mat. He is fun to read and his chapters are great but he's still a little shit and IIRC (it's been since the realse of tGS that i've re-read) doesn't really get a lot of character growth besides accepting his generaling skills after like 8 books
I'm just about at the end of Crown of Swords and he's developing a small sense of responsibility. I'd say this book has contained his largest character growth so far.

I always quite liked Mat in a non-involved kind of way - like, he'd be a total pain in the arse to be around but I'd totally fall for his charms.
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