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Egwene too, for me. I loved that she is portrayed as an ambitious woman, and in story, no judgment is attached to it. Sure, Rand goes off on the deep end on it, but that is somewhat understandable, and it is never shown as him being right.

For me, this was offset by the utterly absurd reaction her ambition got from the readers. I'm pretty sure going into forums and seeing how negatively everyone reacted to it was one of the big pushes for me towards realizing the extent of misogyny in our world.
im more ambivalent about egwene. i love seeing protags of stories given 'unconventional' or even 'negative' traits. sometimes egwene did dumb things. she was actively ambitious. she was cocky at times, bordering on arrogant. and while that can be tough to read at times, i did truly appreciate having a protag with a myriad of qualities (which I think RJ just generally did a good job with for the majority of characters)
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As an Egwene disliker...My issue with Egwene is more with how BS started writing her (the whole Egwene the girl and Egwene the amyrlin was brutal) along with her mistakes in judgment made while under Aran'gar's compulsion. I think those are pretty fair criticisms that have nothing to do with misogyny.
mostly the same page. RJ wrote her (and Mat (and.... everyone)) with a lot more subtlety which makes it a lot easier to stomach when a character has either negative traits or just ones you don't personally like.
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As an Egwene disliker...My issue with Egwene is more with how BS started writing her (the whole Egwene the girl and Egwene the amyrlin was brutal) along with her mistakes in judgment made while under Aran'gar's compulsion. I think those are pretty fair criticisms that have nothing to do with misogyny.
I wasn't pointing at specific people.

But I certainly disliked BS's writing of her. That was just awful. RJ did that just a little bit, and it worked. He used it at those moments where Egwene had to force herself to do something her instincts rebelled with. BS made it a feature of damn near every thought of hers and it was just awful. He didn't get what RJ was going for at all.

I don't think there's a shred of evidence Aran'gar compelled her.

And of course she had negatives. I think her biggest was how her fullest commitment to any job she was given sometimes blinded her to other things, especially rules for her own safety. In typical RJ fashion, that was also a huge benefit to her. The question was about the drawing of lines, and by KoD, I felt RJ had her in place to have a very strong moral core to back up her fierce zeal to succeed. By ToM this theme was dead and gone, for some reason...

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Yeah, liking this news!
True, it won't be HBO backing the series, giving it the same quality as GoT. But, has it been confirmed as animated or live-action? If done right, either could be feasible.

And this, combined with the announcements of not only Young Justice Season 3 being in the works, but also a Titans live-action version now confirmed to be in the works, I have a lot to look forward to in tv shows.
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