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And Trump continues digging that hole. Apparently all he needed to do was toss out a few roles of paper towels, and now he's calling it good in Puerto Rico.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/u...y-forever.html
Can Donny please get in a Twitter war with Eminem? This is something the world needs right now.
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And Trump continues digging that hole. Apparently all he needed to do was toss out a few roles of paper towels, and now he's calling it good in Puerto Rico.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/u...y-forever.html
It probably doesn't help that so few Americans even realize that Puerto Ricans are Americans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/u...-citizens.html

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But another explanation is simpler: Many Americans don’t realize that what happened in Puerto Rico is a domestic disaster, not a foreign one.

A new poll of 2,200 adults by Morning Consult found that only 54 percent of Americans know that people born in Puerto Rico, a commonwealth of the United States, are U.S. citizens. (Because Puerto Rico is not a state, they do not vote in presidential elections, but they send one nonvoting representative to Congress.)
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This finding varied significantly by age and education. Only 37 percent of people ages 18 to 29 know people born in Puerto Rico are citizens, compared with 64 percent of those 65 or older. Similarly, 47 percent of Americans without a college degree know Puerto Ricans are Americans, compared with 72 percent of those with a bachelor’s degree and 66 percent of those with a postgraduate education.
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Inaccurate beliefs on this question matter, because Americans often support cuts to foreign aid when asked to evaluate spending priorities. In our poll, support for additional aid was strongly associated with knowledge of the citizenship status of Puerto Ricans. More than 8 in 10 Americans who know Puerto Ricans are citizens support aid, compared with only 4 in 10 of those who do not.
This is why Puerto Rico needs to be a state. When this happens in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida, senators and congressmen, even if conservatives who previously argued against federal relief aid for hurricanes (like Ted Cruz with Sandy) start demanding attention and money. But when this happens in Puerto Rico...

Tangentially, this is also why Toledo is in Ohio instead of Michigan. Those Ohio bastards stole it from us back when Michigan was still just a territory, but after Ohio had already achieved statehood. We both bitched to congress, but Ohio, conveniently the only one with senators and reps, and the only one who mattered in presidential elections at the time, got their way, even though the land was quite clearly designated as part of Michigan in the Northwest Ordinance.
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It probably doesn't help that so few Americans even realize that Puerto Ricans are Americans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/u...-citizens.html

This is why Puerto Rico needs to be a state. When this happens in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida, senators and congressmen, even if conservatives who previously argued against federal relief aid for hurricanes (like Ted Cruz with Sandy) start demanding attention and money. But when this happens in Puerto Rico...

Tangentially, this is also why Toledo is in Ohio instead of Michigan. Those Ohio bastards stole it from us back when Michigan was still just a territory, but after Ohio had already achieved statehood. We both bitched to congress, but Ohio, conveniently the only one with senators and reps, and the only one who mattered in presidential elections at the time, got their way, even though the land was quite clearly designated as part of Michigan in the Northwest Ordinance.
Someone trolled the Donald reddit earlier this week or last week with a statement that the President of Puerto Rico had destroyed the budget and should resign. They thought it was a great idea...
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This is why Puerto Rico needs to be a state. When this happens in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida, senators and congressmen, even if conservatives who previously argued against federal relief aid for hurricanes (like Ted Cruz with Sandy) start demanding attention and money. But when this happens in Puerto Rico...

Tangentially, this is also why Toledo is in Ohio instead of Michigan. Those Ohio bastards stole it from us back when Michigan was still just a territory, but after Ohio had already achieved statehood. We both bitched to congress, but Ohio, conveniently the only one with senators and reps, and the only one who mattered in presidential elections at the time, got their way, even though the land was quite clearly designated as part of Michigan in the Northwest Ordinance.
Toledo is in Spain, silly.
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Toledo is in Spain, silly.
The Catalonians probably stole it and sold it to Michigan, who then lost it to Ohio. Of course, the Spanish more likely than not originally took it from the natives, so there's that.
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Well, just found out that my health insurance, thanks to the orange POS, will be going up by more than $100 in January because he's cutting subsidies to the companies.

Hoping more and more that his entire administration (barring Mattis and Tillerson) gets charged with collusion with the Russian government and they're all put behind bars.
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Well, just found out that my health insurance, thanks to the orange POS, will be going up by more than $100 in January because he's cutting subsidies to the companies.

Hoping more and more that his entire administration (barring Mattis and Tillerson) gets charged with collusion with the Russian government and they're all put behind bars.
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The Catalonians probably stole it and sold it to Michigan, who then lost it to Ohio. Of course, the Spanish more likely than not originally took it from the natives, so there's that.
To be fair to Ohio, Kimon might complain about losing Toledo, the jewel of NW Ohio, but Michigan did manage to snag the entire Upper Peninsula out of the deal...not exactly an awful swap given the massive mineral resources that were there that helped drive their economy for almost a century.

Still, losing Toledo has to smart a bit.
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They had obviously been hinting at this, but this is still colossally stupid, not to mention transparently motivated purely by politics rather than due to anything Iran is doing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41613314

So, this is the flimsy pretext...

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In a joint statement, the UK, Germany and France said they were "concerned" by Mr Trump's move but remained committed to the deal. But they added they also "shared concerns about Iran's ballistic missile programme and regional activities".
But hey, as with Unesco, apparently kowtowing to Israel and Saudi Arabia is more important than safeguarding peace and non-proliferation. I suppose we can hope that the republicans in congress will do the right thing, but...
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In theory, it is not totally impossible, I guess. Still, I wouldn't advice holding Trump's breath until this happens.
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With ISIS pretty much wrapped up, looking more and more like both Turkey and Baghdad are feeling more prepared to turn now against another common foe...

In Iraq:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41621754

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Brief clashes also erupted between Kurdish forces and Shia militia backing the Iraqi government.
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If someone were to build a time machine, go back 100 years and kill Sykes & Picot, the Middle East would be a lot better place.
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Or, you know, just go full Terminator and take out Jesus and Muhummad...
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Or, you know, just go full Terminator and take out Jesus and Muhummad...
How does one take out fictional characters with questionable historical records that one of them even existed?

If they did...go back with a hologram projector and be an "angel" and tell them to knock off all the idiocy instead.

And kill Saul of Tarsus too...that'd help big time.
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How does one take out fictional characters with questionable historical records that one of them even existed?

If they did...go back with a hologram projector and be an "angel" and tell them to knock off all the idiocy instead.

And kill Saul of Tarsus too...that'd help big time.
Saving Julian at Ctesiphon would probably also work...

Edit: upon quick reflection, saving him at Samarra would likely be more efficacious than at Ctesiphon...

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How does one take out fictional characters with questionable historical records that one of them even existed?

If they did...go back with a hologram projector and be an "angel" and tell them to knock off all the idiocy instead.

And kill Saul of Tarsus too...that'd help big time.
If you tried that the hologram would malfunction (or be sabotaged) and instead of a divine being lit by holy fire you'd get a burning bush...
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Why not tell the Trojans about the Greek hiding inside that wooden horse?
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Not sure how helpful warning them about the earthquake (i.e. the Horse) would have been. As for language, even the Greek raiders didn't speak classical Greek, though the Mycenaeans spoke a proto-ancient Greek, i.e. the language of Linear B. We're far less certain about the Trojans, but they seem to have spoken Luwian, which is related to Hittite.

If you want to really throw a wrench into how antiquity unfolded, the loss of no other single individual would have been as momentous for the development of all of western culture than of Themistocles prior to the 2nd Persian War.
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I thought the earthquake theory was just one of multiple theories on the subject...all archaeology can show is that the city was badly damaged by an earthquake but it doesn't mean it happened during the war or at the end. Granted, classical history isn't my area of study and I'm not actively using my degree so I'd imagine you have far better info that I would on the subject.
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