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Mueller is finally moving directly against Trump. Will be interesting to see if Deutsche Bank continues to try to stonewall.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42240588
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Mueller is finally moving directly against Trump. Will be interesting to see if Deutsche Bank continues to try to stonewall.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42240588
Depending on how serious it is, maybe Germany's own government steps in if they continue to drag their feet?
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Looks like Trump actually is going to go through with his irresponsible intent to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, even with every Muslim leader begging/threatening him not to. I can't help but wonder if even Netanyahu, even if tacitly, thinks that this is incredibly stupid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/w...rump-move.html

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Palestinian officials said Mr. Trump told the president of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, that the United States would move the embassy to Jerusalem. Jordan said the president gave a similar message to King Abdullah II.

American officials, however, said such a move could not occur immediately for logistical reasons, given the lack of facilities to house the embassy staff. As a result, Mr. Trump is expected to sign a national security waiver that would authorize the administration to keep it in Tel Aviv for an additional six months.

Still, Mr. Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital — and to set in motion an embassy move — is his riskiest foray yet into the thicket of Middle East diplomacy. Arab and European leaders warn that it could derail any peace initiative and even ignite fresh violence in the region.

King Abdullah II strongly cautioned against the move, “stressing that Jerusalem is the key to achieving peace and stability in the region and the world,” according to a statement from the royal palace in Amman.

“King Abdullah stressed that the adoption of this resolution will have serious implications for security and stability in the Middle East, and will undermine the efforts of the American administration to resume the peace process and fuel the feelings of Muslims and Christians,” the statement said.

Few details of the conversation between Mr. Trump and Mr. Abbas were released, but a P.L.O. spokesman said that the call had given shape to the worst fears of Palestinians — that the United States would break with decades of practice and longstanding international consensus by recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

The Palestinians hope to make East Jerusalem the capital of a Palestinian state, and the city is of great religious significance to Jews, Christians and Muslims.

“It’s very serious,” said the spokesman, Xavier Abu Eid. “Things look very bad.”
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In his phone calls with Arab leaders, Mr. Trump is making the case that settling the question of the American Embassy could actually hasten the peace process by removing a thorny political issue that recurs every six months.

But that is primarily a political problem for Mr. Trump, who promised during the 2016 campaign to move the embassy. His pledge was extremely popular with evangelicals and pro-Israel backers, including the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. They expressed frustration when Mr. Trump signed the waiver in June, keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv.

Middle East experts said the administration’s argument that it could not move the embassy immediately made little sense, since all that is required is to place a sign on the existing American consulate, declaring it the embassy.
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Depending on how serious it is, maybe Germany's own government steps in if they continue to drag their feet?
Maybe? Either way, seems pretty clear what this Deutsche Bank thing is about...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/31/inve...ing/index.html

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It follows a $7.2 billion settlement Deutsche Bank reached with the U.S. Department of Justice last month over toxic mortgage assets and the $2.5 billion it agreed to pay in 2015 over interest rate manipulation.
The latest fines penalize Deutsche Bank (DB)'s failure to deal with a stock-trading scheme that enabled some of its clients in Russia to improperly move huge sums of money out of the country and into offshore accounts, according to regulators.
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What could possibly go wrong?
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If they're so eager to meet their Maker, I say put them right up front when the shooting starts.

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They'd be happy to be those up front. The problem is that they're not going to die alone and are going to take a lot of innocents with them.
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They'd be happy to be those up front. The problem is that they're not going to die alone and are going to take a lot of innocents with them.
I disagree. They'll be huddled safely in their Doomsday bunkers screeching "Don't let another Benghazi happen! Send in the Marines to protect our Sacred Embassy from the Godless Radical Islamic Terrorists (TM) !!!"
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Looks like Trump actually is going to go through with his irresponsible intent to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, even with every Muslim leader begging/threatening him not to. I can't help but wonder if even Netanyahu, even if tacitly, thinks that this is incredibly stupid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/w...rump-move.html
Yeah like things are going to change? Hamas will call for more attacks, like it's been doing forever. It's amazing that people are afraid that this decision will bring about more violence. It's just more anti-semitic behavior by Arabs against Jews. That's not to say Israel is innocent, because they certainly aren't, but it's laughable that people think Trump's decision will cause violence, or even that a two-state system would actually work. Give the Palestinians a few months in their own state and things will be back to how they are now, Hamas building tunnels into Israel to kill innocents and Israel retaliating with missiles. It'll never change.
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I disagree. They'll be huddled safely in their Doomsday bunkers screeching "Don't let another Benghazi happen! Send in the Marines to protect our Sacred Embassy from the Godless Radical Islamic Terrorists (TM) !!!"
I didn't necessarily mean just civilians or the "enemy"...but yeah, many will be hiding in bunkers. Reminds me of a movie poster I saw.

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Yeah like things are going to change? Hamas will call for more attacks, like it's been doing forever. It's amazing that people are afraid that this decision will bring about more violence. It's just more anti-semitic behavior by Arabs against Jews. That's not to say Israel is innocent, because they certainly aren't, but it's laughable that people think Trump's decision will cause violence, or even that a two-state system would actually work. Give the Palestinians a few months in their own state and things will be back to how they are now, Hamas building tunnels into Israel to kill innocents and Israel retaliating with missiles. It'll never change.
Yeah making the Arabs feel isolated and abandoned by embracing their enemy is the better option. What you really need to do to cower someone is corner them and threaten them. When they're good and broken they're come around realize they were wrong and apologize and become good Christians.
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Yeah making the Arabs feel isolated and abandoned by embracing their enemy is the better option. What you really need to do to cower someone is corner them and threaten them. When they're good and broken they're come around realize they were wrong and apologize and become good Christians.
It worked for the workers who'd come over to America a couple of centuries ago, didn't it?
They're quite enthusiastic Christians now, for the most part.
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It worked for the workers who'd come over to America a couple of centuries ago, didn't it?
They're quite enthusiastic Christians now, for the most part.
Oh, yeah, the best Christians. So great they want to vote a pedophile into office because at least he's for lower taxes and against abortion. Makes sense I guess. Have lots of poor kids around makes it easier for them to find victims to abuse.
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Oh, yeah, the best Christians. So great they want to vote a pedophile into office because at least he's for lower taxes and against abortion. Makes sense I guess. Have lots of poor kids around makes it easier for them to find victims to abuse.
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Yeah like things are going to change? Hamas will call for more attacks, like it's been doing forever. It's amazing that people are afraid that this decision will bring about more violence. It's just more anti-semitic behavior by Arabs against Jews. That's not to say Israel is innocent, because they certainly aren't, but it's laughable that people think Trump's decision will cause violence, or even that a two-state system would actually work. Give the Palestinians a few months in their own state and things will be back to how they are now, Hamas building tunnels into Israel to kill innocents and Israel retaliating with missiles. It'll never change.
There’s good reason why no one, until now, has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Likewise why everyone, and I do mean everyone (except Israel) has condemned this decision.

It’s not just the Arab neighbors and other Muslim countries (many of which are our allies - Jordan, which has a huge Palestinian population because of refugees, Lebanon, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia are all important American allies that we are needlessly antagonizing), but also our European allies. Both Israel and Palestine claim Jerusalem as their capital. Had he hedged his intention with a demand, say, a promise to recognize West Jersalem as the capital of Israel once and only once the Israelis had destroyed and abandoned all their illegal settlements in Palestinian Territory (i.e. in the West Bank), and in congress with a clear and immediate recognition of East Jerusalem, without any demands to the Palestinians, as the immediate capital of Palestine, that would have been perfectly fine.

Instead, what Trump has done has destroyed any chance we have both of playing a meaningful role in any future (at least until a new administration completely disavows this foolish act, but even then trust as to our impartiality, already very mistrusted in the Muslim world, has likely been irreparably eroded) peace negotiations, and has effectively served as an American stance that we do not believe in a two state solution.
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Franken is resigning.

So, Franken - gone. Conyers - gone. Weinstein - gone. Charlie Rose - gone. Matt Lauer - gone.

Trump - still president. Roy Moore - still going to be elected to the senate.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...ns-seat-report

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Franken is resigning.

So, Franken - gone. Conyers - gone. Weinstein - gone. Charlie Rose - gone. Matt Lauer - gone.

Trump - still president. Roy Moore - still going to be elected to the senate.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...ns-seat-report

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...resigns-285957
If the shoe was on the other foot, like if there was a wiff of pedophilia against a Democrat Hell would be raised. Republican does it? At least he's not a Democrat. The tribalism just staggers me.
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So...Donny Half-Scoop tweeted out about wikileaks having thousands of Clinton emails on literally the same day the decryption key and weblink were sent to him and several other Trump campaign staffers. Wikileaks is deemed to be a hostile intelligence service controlled by Russian intelligence per just our entire intelligence community.

This is what collusion looks like.
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This is what collusion looks like.
And Trump still hasnít enacted the new sanctions passed by Congress back in the summer. So, sure he hasnít been able to eliminate the Magnitsky Act sanctions, though quite clear from Flynnís actions, that they have been trying to do so, but they have defied Congress in installing the new ones.

But does it matter? We all know that he colluded. Republicans just donít care. Itís similar to Roy Moore. Everyone knows that he was sexually harrassing, and in at least two instances, sexually assaulting children. Do they care? Do any of us not expect him to be elected on Tuesday? Do any of us think that senate republicans will really do anything to expel him?

Mueller can charge Manafort. He can charge Flynn. He can charge Kushner, and Donny Jr, and Eric. But can he charge Trump? It isnít whether he committed a crime that is the issue here. He clearly did. It is how broadly immunity applies. Because republicans wonít impeach him. No matter how much evidence is produced. Especially now that it seems likely that Pence is complicit as well.

Weíre stuck with them until Ď20. Maybe longer if the dems fall prey to infighting again. And then if we win? Will Trump concede? Will he claim that his defeat was simply due to phantom illegal immigrants voting, and refuse to accept the defeat? Would he have accepted the defeat had Hillary not screwed up, and spent more time in Michigan, Wiscy, and Pennysylvania, rather than maintaining delusions of somehow stealing Georgia? Julian Assange clearly was trying to talk him into contesting that presumed defeat. And he was just as clearly laying the spadework for a pretext of disputing the election upon the false allegation of illegal voting.

I donít think heíll go quietly.
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on Moore, if I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say he'll probably win by roughly 4-5 points instead of the 15-20+ he would have if not for the accusations.

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An audit of those 3 states would be very very interesting given the disparity between the exit polls and reported results.

Same with Florida among others. Exit polls had her winning FL, NC, WI and PA by fairly comfortable margins. Very odd to say the least. She was a terrible candidate but she still should have won against Trump but didn't somehow...and we highly suspect that electronic voting was completely open/vulnerable to foreign hacking.
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