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Ah. And does anyone know what the deal with flinn's circle at shadar logoth was? it almost looks like he is leading, but that seems impossible
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I have a WOT based question: where abouts on the Scoville scale are Saldaean Ice Peppers (i.e. how hot are they)?
As stated previously, it really isn't specified exactly how hot ice peppers are. However, just like with habaneros, there apparently are different varieties of ice peppers that have varying degrees of hotness. The white ice peppers are the hottest:

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"Master Domon," Elayne said, "what was one of your men doing at the Panarch's Palace?"

He tugged at his beard in an embarrassed way, and rubbed his bare upper lip with a wide finger. "You see, the Panarch Amathera do be known to like ice peppers, the white kind that be very hot, and whether or no she be amenable to gifts herself, the customs men will know who did give her one and be more amenable themselves."


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Wtf is fastball?
And firestone? Can't be rubies, and I don't think they can be garnets either. Moonstones...opals?
I assume you mean firedrops, since firestones aren't mentioned in WoT. We know that firedrops are red gemstones:

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The sisters who had said there was almost as much to learn after gaining the shawl as before were proven right in short order. Moiraine and Siuan had learned the complexities of White Tower customs as Accepted, especially which ones had been in existence so long they had the force of law, and the penalties for violating them. Now Rafela and others spent hours instructing them in the long list of Blue Ajah customs, accreted over three thousand years. Siuan actually retained most of what Rafela had told them during their first walk to the Blue quarters, and Moiraine had to work hard to catch up. It would have been a shame to gain a penance for something so trivial as wearing red inside the Tower. Red gems were allowed, firedrops or rubies or garnets, but the color was forbidden in clothing, a matter of some long-standing animosity between the Blue and the Red, so old no one was actually certain what had begun it or when. Blue and Red opposed each other as a matter of course, at times bringing the Hall to a near standstill.
Rubies and garnets are clearly mentioned separately, so firedrops must be something different. Opals and moonstones are also mentioned separately throughout the books (moonstones are not red, anyway, and opals come in a variety of colors), so they can't correspond to firedrops, either.

There are other red gemstones in the real world; the most common after ruby and garnet is probably spinel. Spinel was often mistaken for ruby in earlier times. And spinel is not ever mentioned in WoT, so it is possible that firedrops are the WoT equivalent of spinel, or at least something similar.

There are other possibilities for the correspondence between a real world red gemstone and the firedrops of WoT, I suppose, such as rubellite, which is a red variety of tourmaline, but spinel seems the most likely to me.
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Ah. And does anyone know what the deal with flinn's circle at shadar logoth was? it almost looks like he is leading, but that seems impossible
Why do you assume that?
The only references I remember about circles is that:
-The male automatically controls a circle when there is only one woman.
-That one of the females automatically controls a circle of two women with one man. (not even sure on this one or if it's just to properly control/buffer Callandor)
-That a man automatically takes control when there is 13 women.

Other than those numbers, it's whoever they want it to be.
Neald was clearly in control of the circle of 2 men and 6 women in "A Making" and either him or Grady are in control of any circles to make the big gateways as neither the Wiseone's or the AS with Perrin know how to.

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The Rahvin Lanfear graendal circle that never happened was implied to require a woman leading.
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Why do you assume that?
The only references I remember about circles is that:
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Other than those numbers, it's whoever they want it to be.
Not quite. The BWB has the complete details:

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A circle of up to thirteen female channelers can be linked together without the presence of a man. If a man is added to the link of thirteen women, they can then increase the link to include thirteen more women, or a total of twenty-six women and one man. Two men can take the circle to include thirty-four women. The next total is forty-five, with three men linked with forty-two women, then fifty-four (four men and fifty women), then sixty-three (five men and fifty-eight women) and finally seventy-two (six men and sixty-six women). This last, a circle of seventy-two, is the maximum possible link in terms of numbers.

Other gender mixes are possible in a link as well. The number of men in a circle is limited only be the fact that with the exceptions of the linking of one man and one woman or of two men and one woman ( and of course, of two men and two women), there must always be at least one more woman in the circle than the number of men. Thus, three men would need four women to be in a circle together, four men would need five women, and so on. There can also be smaller circles than thirteen, whether of women alone or of men and women.

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In most cases, either a man or a woman can control the link - this is called leading, focusing, or guiding - but in the case of a circle of seventy-two, a circle of only one man and one woman, or in most circles of up to thirteen which contain more than one man, a man must lead. Excepting the examples given above, and other circles of thirteen or less, a woman must lead where the minimum number of men are present.
Since Damer Flinn was in a circle of two women and one man, the minimum number of men was Zero and he could lead the circle. Since he could lead the circle, he was the logical person TO lead the circle because he was not only unlimited by the three oaths, he was specifically trained in OP combat. Corele, a Yellow and Sarene, a White, are not trained in combat and are bound by the Oaths.
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Who shot the arrow at Rand just before they set out to find the Horn of Valere?
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who was the best worrier of history?
Nynaeve seems to worry a lot, but so do Rand and Mat. It's tough to say whether they were worriers on a historical level, though.
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Who shot the arrow at Rand just before they set out to find the Horn of Valere?
A Gray Man that Ingtar let in to the fortress. Ingtar confesses to it at the end of tGH.
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Nynaeve seems to worry a lot, but so do Rand and Mat. It's tough to say whether they were worriers on a historical level, though.
I was thinking someone more like Halwin Norry...he seems to be quite the worrier.
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Q: Do we know how the link between Trollocs and Myrddraal is made?
I don't think its ever been specifically said how Fades link with Trollocks or even if they can link with other shadowspawn or only Trollocks but we have been told that Fades have abilities that even Aginore their creator did not understand such as the ability to travel in shadows. Its likely that the True Power was used in the creation of all shadowspawn so it could be a throwback to that.
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We know that one of Rand's questions to Aelfinn was about cleansing saidin. Did we ever learn what was the exact answer ?

Also, while we at it, what was the third question ?
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We know that one of Rand's questions to Aelfinn was about cleansing saidin. Did we ever learn what was the exact answer ?
Only that it was a riddle, and that Fel helped him work it out.

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Also, while we at it, what was the third question ?
Most people assume it had something to do with the Bore, but he doesn't seem to have learned anything helpful about that.
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Were the two guards from Fal Dara that were found skinned alive (but dead when found) actually DFs, or just victims of circumstance?
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Were the two guards from Fal Dara that were found skinned alive (but dead when found) actually DFs, or just victims of circumstance?
They were Dark Friend's. According to WoT Encyclopedia:

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/characters/n/nidao.html

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/characters/c/changu.html

Ingtar initially stated his "disbelief" they were since they had both fought hard to save Lord Agelmar when his horse was cut down at Tarwin's Gap but they also may have went over to the shadow for Ingtar's reason of hoping to save something from the ever encroaching darkness but that is purely speculation on my part. Regardless, Ingtar had yet to reveal himself as a Dark Friend and was offering support for them not being Dark Friend's while he probably knew full well they were but had to keep up appearances at that point.
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I don't think the encyclopedia can prove they were df. and maybe ingtar defended them because whatever crimes they were assumed guilty of were actually committed by ingtar.
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Frenzy argued that they were not Darkfriends.
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Thanks. I must admit, I find myself thinking along those same lines. It just didn't really add up for those 2 to be dfs.
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It would not be the only false accusations of going over to the Shadow.
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Who makes the a'dam?

Elayne has an affinity for making ter'angreal but she cannot produce perfect copies at the moment, and yet Seanchan has plenty of a'dam. Are they still being made or is it a case of there being plenty spare due to there being fewer sparkers all over the world in recent generations due to them being bred out of the general population, particularly in Seanchan where having sex with a damane is considered extremely perverse? Are the a'dam predominantly old artefacts?

If a'dam are still being made does that imply that Elayne's affinity for ter'angreal isn't terribly special, and that some damane are actually better than she is since they can make perfect copies? Or are a'dam just very simple ter'angreal?

I had a quick look in the BWB last night but didn't find what I was after, and I was hoping someone might remember details of this from the series itself.
 


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