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They died off. It was mentioned in Mandein's POV, how they had foreseen it.
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was Nynaeve really ignoring Egwene's dream summons that pissed Egwene off so much or was she still drained to the point of uselessness after the cleansing?
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Egwene did seem annoyed that Nynaeve had avoided her for so long. Egwene has no way of knowing that Nynaeve was not simply slacking off and that instead she had helped cleanse the taint from saidin, help track down Graendal, help fight off 100,000+ shadowspawn army not to mention being one of the few that were a stabilizing force for dark Rand.

Plus at the risk of starting an Egwene bashing theat Egwene does seem to have ... issues when it comes to Nynaeve accepting her authority. She is not nearly as hard on Elayne but its perhaps because once Nynaeve was the Wisdom and Egwene was being groomed to ber her apprentice. She might simply feel insuecure unless Nynaeve is cowed.

As for why Nynaeve dragged her feet, I don't think it was because she was exhauusted but because she thought she was neede with Rand more than anything else.
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Plus at the risk of starting an Egwene bashing theat Egwene does seem to have ... issues when it comes to Nynaeve accepting her authority.
tried to word it so that couldnt happen, i hate her often but this time im just trying to figure something out.

i meant it to be the time when she was thinking about pulling her into the dream against her will but it seems to set the haters off when her quotes are posted.

just cannot figure out the timeline about how soon Egwenes bitch moment happens after the cleansing to see if Nynaeve was tired or just blowing her off because she felt she was doing something more important, or she thought she would get into trouble for her deal with the sea folk and was hiding
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Personally I think Egwene & Nynaeve have issues. Egwene feels insecure around her former superior Nynaeve and overcompensates. Nynaeve likewise is not overly keen to play second fiddle to a former student. I think Nynaeve's decision to avoid Egwene for as long as she did was an unconscious one, a bit like one could say Rand has avoided the BT for so long because subconsciously he has never overcome his abhorence of male channelers even thougth he is one and uses them frequently.
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was Nynaeve really ignoring Egwene's dream summons that pissed Egwene off so much or was she still drained to the point of uselessness after the cleansing?
IIRC the moment when Egwene was pissed off was at the start of ToM, right? If so, it's about 3 months after the Cleansing.
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OK i dont know why she was ignoring her then, maybe it started because of the cleansing then Egwene gave her some snotty demands to get her to talk to her so Nynaeve started ignoring her until she stopped being a brat and asked nicely.

it probably just became a circle of bossy brat Vs sulky cow until Nynaeve ran out of excuses to stay away
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It could be that Nynaeve feared that the AS would try to keep her away from Rand while Nynaeve thought that he needed her help right then more than those AS needed her presence.
If so, then I would say that she was entirely correct on both counts.
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In addition Nynaeve is not really into politics, she is too straightforward to be any good at them. Its not that she is stupid but she tends to say what she means and mean what she says. I suspect Nynaeve at some level realises that she is not really cut out for the bearpit of AS life in the Tower with its constant manipulatins and backstabbing.
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In A Crown of Swords,is the disturbance in the one power caused by Elayne collapsing her gateway weave,or is it from the use of the Bowl of Winds?
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In A Crown of Swords,is the disturbance in the one power caused by Elayne collapsing her gateway weave,or is it from the use of the Bowl of Winds?
Do you mean in TPoD (like during the Dragon's campaign against the Seanchan)?

I always thought it was the Bowl, but I'm not sure it was ever made explicit.
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Okay, another question.

When Perrin first experiences his Wolf Dream and sees Mierin/Lanfear, what does she mean that Perrin will ruin everything?
Also, in the Shadow Rising, it seems she alludes to some other plot there as well when she asks is Rand remembers something.
It also always seemed that Lanfear was never really dedicated to the DO's cause (whether that changed when she was brought back, or was basically a lover scorned, I have no clue) and alluded to completely abondoning it should Rand ask her to stand by him to rule the world. I guess my real question is:
Is/was Lanfear always evil, part of some other plot, or a lover scorned (best way to put it)?
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Is/was Lanfear always evil, part of some other plot, or a lover scorned (best way to put it)?
I've always thought of Lanfear as "the Psycho Cheerleader from Hell."
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I've met some, that's an insult to Lanfear!
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In addition Nynaeve is not really into politics, she is too straightforward to be any good at them. Its not that she is stupid but she tends to say what she means and mean what she says. I suspect Nynaeve at some level realises that she is not really cut out for the bearpit of AS life in the Tower with its constant manipulatins and backstabbing.
I think there have always been "Tower Aes Sedai" and "Field Aes Sedai" - just look at Siuan and Moiraine, or Cadsuane. The Tower might only have publically split recently, but history says that those who stayed in the Tower were always those best suited to intrigue, while there were also those (with the exception of royal advisers) less suited to the politics who followed different causes.
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He probably is easier to kill in real life than in TAR. Still not really easy, of course.
And he has two real names, as he is two persons: Luc the brother of Tigraine, and Isam cousin of Lan.

I think that only one of them is active at one single time, and the other then exists only in theory, not with a body of his own.
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RJ said that he can be either Luc or Isam, and that his stepping in and out of Tel'aran'rhiod is the mechanism for change. Apparently he can't even change his appearance in Tel'aran'rhiod, which is odd, since even Nynaeve can do that, but that's what RJ said.
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is someone going to tell Egwene that the sea folk Aes Sedai are the ones that are looking after the secret records before they leave or is someone going to try to use it against her?

Or is the whole tower really that stupid?
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