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Old 11-04-2015, 12:46 AM
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There's a surprising amount of detail on all the Ferrets. Not strength and other minutea, but about their character and their views on some things, and their pasts. It makes me think RJ had a lot planned for them with Egwene.
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:17 AM
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I just got it and only skimmed a bit so far. One surprising thing I found is that apparently in Andor male nobles only inherit titles if they have no sisters. Given that so many of the High Seats of the major Andoran Houses were male (9 out of the 19 IIRC), that doesn't make much sense to me. There is also no mention that the Queen is selected by the majority vote of these High Seats.

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Old 11-04-2015, 10:05 AM
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I just got it and only skimmed a bit so far. One surprising thing I found is that apparently in Andor male nobles only inherit titles if they have no sisters. Given that so many of the High Seats of the major Andoran Houses were male (9 out of the 19 IIRC), that doesn't make much sense to me. There is also no mention that the Queen is selected by the majority vote of these High Seats.
It is possible to not have sisters, I think. And it may well be that some of those sisters died childless in the previous Succession War.
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It is possible to not have sisters, I think. And it may well be that some of those sisters died childless in the previous Succession War.
It's possible, but very unlikely to happen so often. Especially since noblewomen don't fight personally in battles unlike the men. And even among the less important Houses there are plenty of male High Seats.
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It's possible, but very unlikely to happen so often. Especially since noblewomen don't fight personally in battles unlike the men. And even among the less important Houses there are plenty of male High Seats.
But families without female offspring do exist. I'm not sure what the rates are, but a 50% split doesn't seem too egregious. We know Morgase, for instance, had no brother that we know of. I'm sure some families have male and female siblings, but hardly all need to.
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Yeah, but male offspring from leading families in Andor can't become king, so it would make sense for them to keep trying until they do produce a girl, who could become queen, if things turn out right. Which would tend to skew the statistics in the direction of "at least one girl" families.
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Guys, anything notable about
  • Ishy
  • Lanfear
  • Shara/ayyad
  • AOL
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Well, it doesn't give us a damn thing on Nakomi. Boooooo.
I always had the impression that Nakomi is just... Nakomi and even the author didn't actually know who is this woman. Just some mystery.
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Nothing really new, for any of these.
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Hi all, long time lurker, I'm originally from wotmania.

In the oath rod section, I thought it was odd that there was no mention of the infertility caused by the oath rod. I don't think there are any Aes Sedai that had children. Plenty of them had relationships with men. What do you think? Did it cause infertility?

Also noticed that Nicola bonded Areina as her warder. While still a novice.

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Some background on Elyas Machera that I believe is new: he's Tairen, he ran off to the Borderlands seeking adventure at 14, eventually becoming a soldier in Shienar before being bonded by Rina, and met Lan during the last year of Lan's training in Shienar.
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In the oath rod section, I thought it was odd that there was no mention of the infertility caused by the oath rod. I don't think there are any Aes Sedai that had children. Plenty of them had relationships with men. What do you think? Did it cause infertility?
I believe the Aes Sedai just use moon tea, like other women.
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Two members of the Black Ajah's Supreme Council are mentioned in Velina's entry, her and Sedore.

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Her name was listed in Verin's book, but she fled the Tower and avoided capture.
This is obviously written not counting Galina, who of course is otherwise indisposed at this point. Otherwise, there would have been three who knew Alviarin's name.
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This is obviously written not counting Galina, who of course is otherwise indisposed at this point. Otherwise, there would have been three who knew Alviarin's name.
Weirdly, Sedore's entry says:

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And Sheriam's entry doesn't even say she was of the Supreme Council, which Egwene implied in tGS.
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Seaine and Pevara were apparently pillow friends as novices and Accepted. And Talene was jealous of them, because she wanted to be pillow friends with Seaine. Ha.
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Seaine and Pevara were apparently pillow friends as novices and Accepted. And Talene was jealous of them, because she wanted to be pillow friends with Seaine. Ha.
Yeah that was interesting. And apparently Talene didn't want a threesome partly because Pevara was stronger in the power than her, and she hated to defer to anyone. Though... Accepted don't defer on the basis of strength, so why this mattered at all is beyond me.

By the way... can someone who has seen the notes confirm Amys's strength? There's nothing in her entry. Melaine is at level 17(5), same as Faolain. Egwene once said Amys was as strong as any sister in the Tower, while another time she said she was as strong as Theodrin, who is level 15(3).
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About the only piece of future info I can find is about Rhuidean:

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So, dantordhol has a nice ring to it...
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One thing that has struck me so far is that everyone seems to be ridiculously tall. Is the gravity of Randland less than earths?
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Yeah that was interesting. And apparently Talene didn't want a threesome partly because Pevara was stronger in the power than her, and she hated to defer to anyone. Though... Accepted don't defer on the basis of strength, so why this mattered at all is beyond me.

By the way... can someone who has seen the notes confirm Amys's strength? There's nothing in her entry. Melaine is at level 17(5), same as Faolain. Egwene once said Amys was as strong as any sister in the Tower, while another time she said she was as strong as Theodrin, who is level 15(3).
Notes say 16(4).
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