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Trump officially nominates Putin's BFF Rex Tillerson to be his SecState.

Out of curiosity, how much evidence do we need for people on the Right to start realizing just how deep in the pockets of the Kremlin that Trump is?
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Just popping in to say that the time for using Sweden as a good example is long past.

Because it's pretty much one charismatic person away from blowing up.
Sweden and France are exhibits A and B in the argument that the ethnonationalism sweeping through this country has nothing to do with economics. Anyone arguing to the contrary must ignore the same ugly breed of racial resentment and nationalism metastasizing through Europe despite their solid economies and expensive social safety nets.

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Sweden and France are exhibits A and B in the argument that the ethnonationalism sweeping through this country has nothing to do with economics. Anyone arguing to the contrary must ignore the same ugly breed of racial resentment and nationalism metastasizing through Europe despite their solid economies and expensive social safety nets.

This is not a bug, it's a feature, and we need to address it as such.
At least Germany and Austria haven't fallen victim to it yet...maybe its because they have a bit more intimate knowledge of how that tends to work out for a country.

Though I believe Merkel is up for reelection next year. That should be one very interesting election...and quite the bellwhether for the rest of the West going forward.
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Sweden and France are exhibits A and B in the argument that the ethnonationalism sweeping through this country has nothing to do with economics. Anyone arguing to the contrary must ignore the same ugly breed of racial resentment and nationalism metastasizing through Europe despite their solid economies and expensive social safety nets.

This is not a bug, it's a feature, and we need to address it as such.
Don't know much about France, but Sweden is falling apart at the seams and they don't have anywhere near enough money to pay for their stupidity.

So while economics isn't the only, or even the biggest, cause, it definitely plays a role.

And no. It's not just old fashioned racism either. Far from it in fact.
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At least Germany and Austria haven't fallen victim to it yet...maybe its because they have a bit more intimate knowledge of how that tends to work out for a country.

Though I believe Merkel is up for reelection next year. That should be one very interesting election...and quite the bellwhether for the rest of the West going forward.
Heh. Think you're a bit optimistic now. From what I've heard Germany at least is gonna blow soon too.

Merkel is getting desperate at least since she all of a sudden wants to ban the burka.
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In other news, Governor Rick Perry selected to run Energy...so I guess his "smart person" glasses make him qualified to oversee our nuclear energy program, eh?

When some plutonium goes missing, will he pray for it to be found like he had Texas pray for rain during a drought?

And Carly Fiorina is the frontrunner to be the new Director of National Intelligence. This is a fairly new position (created in 2005) but its arguably the most important position in the entire Intelligence Community along with the Director of the NSA and CIA (who both technically fall under this position in the food chain). As such, we've always had pretty well qualified and experienced DNIs

2005-2007: John Negronponte: Foreign Service officer with State for 37 years, Ambassador to Honduras, Mexico and Philippines as well as UN Ambassador and Ambassador to Iraq during the occupation. Speaks 5 languages fluently, was a deputy national security advisor under Reagan. One of the most highly respected diplomats at State in recent memory.

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2009-2010: Admiral Dennis Blair, 34 years in the Navy, former commander of all Pacific forces, worked in the WH for both Carter and Reagan. Arguably the least qualified DNI so far and still has decades more practical experience than a failed CEO of a tech company.

2010 - Present: General Jim Clapper: Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. Very long military career in Signals Intelligence. Incredibly qualified on the technical side of the Intel world with decades of practical experience in that area as well as managing intelligence agencies.


So um...Really Donald? Really? Carly Fvcking Fiorina?!?
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At least Germany and Austria haven't fallen victim to it yet...maybe its because they have a bit more intimate knowledge of how that tends to work out for a country.
Mind you, only a relatively short while ago, there was an election for the office of president in Austria that was so close (the non-Nazi won by a couple of thousand votes, or something like that) that their supreme court ruled that it had to be done over. This time (a week or so ago), the moderate candidate won by a larger margin.
So yes, Austria didn't fall for it. But it was not quite as comfortable as you make it seem.
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Out of curiosity, how much evidence do we need for people on the Right to start realizing just how deep in the pockets of the Kremlin that Trump is?
Likely parades of Russian hardware down Pennsylvania Avenue and Mount Rushmore renovated to show Putin, Stalin and a pair of other Russian luminaries.
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Lenin and Rasputin.
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"Chairman Trump is a master deal maker, he's got Putin right where he wants him!!!"
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"Chairman Trump is a master deal maker, he's got Putin right where he wants him!!!"
Is Trump a masochist who wants Putin to be his dom?
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Sure. They work. Or...what about Tzar Peter? Catherine the Great?
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Sure. They work. Or...what about Tzar Peter? Catherine the Great?
Its gonna be tough to get the horse up there on the mountain along with Catherine...maybe just Peter instead?
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Don't know much about France, but Sweden is falling apart at the seams and they don't have anywhere near enough money to pay for their stupidity.

So while economics isn't the only, or even the biggest, cause, it definitely plays a role.

And no. It's not just old fashioned racism either. Far from it in fact.
I'm pretty confident that it is exactly old fashioned racism, in large part. There are other factors, certainly, but that's the deciding factor. The three strongest correlates with Trump support were education level (strong inverse correlation), authoritarian tendency, and racial resentment. I'd wager a mortgage payment that those correlations hold true in Sweden and France and everywhere else ethno-nationalism is on the march.
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I'm pretty confident that it is exactly old fashioned racism, in large part. There are other factors, certainly, but that's the deciding factor. The three strongest correlates with Trump support were education level (strong inverse correlation), authoritarian tendency, and racial resentment. I'd wager a mortgage payment that those correlations hold true in Sweden and France and everywhere else ethno-nationalism is on the march.
It's exactly that attitude that got us in this mess in the first place.

"I'm not happy about x or y"
"You racist!"

"I feel like our politicians aren't working in our best interests"
"You stupid redneck!"

Thing is that we never had a huge problem with racism here in Scandinavia. Sure there's racists and neo-nazis here too, but nowhere near what you got in the US.

In Sweden's case (and to a lesser degree Norway and Demark's) it went something like this:

I'm a happy viking. I live in a country with plenty of resources. I most likely got a job, and if not I get enough money to live from the country. Sure, there's some lazy assholes mooching off this, but it's not a huge problem.

Then enter globalism and multi-culturalism. We take in more and more refugees (or rather welfare-migrants). Quite a lot of them can't (or wont) get a job and end up being a net loss for my country. They also bring with them a lot of crime.
If anyone wants proof for Norway you can google translate this stuff: https://www.ssb.no/innvandring-og-in...og-innvandrere

Sweden has been burying all stats that are negative towards immigrants so it's almost impossible to find anything official from there.

So. I'm still a happy viking, but I start to notice that there seems to be more crime, and our welfare programs start to get picked apart piece by piece. In Sweden's case I can't even get a place to live anymore because the government is renting everything to house more immigrants.

The police try to keep a lid on all the crime, but it all comes out in the end because most of the police force in the worst cities quit and move somewhere else.
You get literal no-go zones in several cities, welfare is cut more. Crime increases even more since there's not too many police officers left and those that are are either corrupt or scared shitless.

Keep all this going for years while the press and almost every single political party is repeating "everything is alright, immigrants are great" and everyone that tries to focus on the problems are called racists.

Then, and only then does racism become a factor, because the best way to get more racists is to call everyone that tries to have a conversation a racist.

So after years of watching my country go down the shitter with no politician (apart from the racist ones) even admitting there's a problem I'm not a very happy viking anymore.
I realize I got two choices. Either I vote for one of the PC political parties and keep the country running off the cliff. Or I can go for the Trump/Le Pen/<insert racist and stupid choice here>.

That's pretty much how it's gone in Sweden. And while the Swedes are starting to wake up (Sverigedemokratarna is either the biggest or close to the biggest party now) it's way too late to save Sweden.

Luckily it hasn't gone that far here in Norway or in Denmark yet. So we still got a chance.
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