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Looks like Rex Tillerson is the director of a Bahamas-based US/Russian oil company.

This boardship credential is notably absent from his corporate bio, Exxon SEC Form 10K, 8K disclosures.

What's that feeling called where you're impressed but not surprised?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...?CMP=edit_2221
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Just a reminder of how things could still be much worse...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38336054

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There are in fact three exchange rates in Venezuela.
If you're importing essential goods like staple foods and medicine, and you happen to know the right people in government, you can buy a US dollar for the state-controlled price of just 10 bolivars - a bargain!
Everyone else is supposed to change at the second government-controlled rate, currently 670 bolivars. But there's also a real-world, black-market rate, which has gone through the roof in recent weeks.
In October, there were 1,500 bolivars to the dollar. By late November there were well over 4,000.
The Venezuelan currency has strengthened since then but, even so, it's lost half its value on the black market in just a couple of months. My two towering stacks of bank notes were worth $100 when I entered the country. When I left two weeks later they were worth $50.
The 100-bolivar note, the biggest in circulation, is worth just two US cents. So when heading out for a coffee or a bite to eat, you had to take a sack of cash with you.
Not sure how Maduro is still alive. This situation seems ripe for either revolution or military coup. A few decades ago (or perhaps a few months from now) this situation would also be ripe for some CIA shenanigans...
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Just a reminder of how things could still be much worse...

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Not sure how Maduro is still alive. This situation seems ripe for either revolution or military coup. A few decades ago (or perhaps a few months from now) this situation would also be ripe for some CIA shenanigans...
What general in his right mind would want to inherit that clusterfuck? That alone is enough to keep Maduro alive for now.

Give Trump time...we're looking at a massive recession soon thanks to his idiocy.
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What general in his right mind would want to inherit that clusterfuck? That alone is enough to keep Maduro alive for now.

Give Trump time...we're looking at a massive recession soon thanks to his idiocy.
They've already tried (back in Autumn) legal means of removing him from power, as they held a recall petition that had far more than the requisite signatures (20% of voters). Madura threatened to fire all public workers that signed, and when threats weren't enough, he instead just had his puppet courts declare the petition a fraud, insisted that most of the signatures must have been forgeries, and refused to allow an actual referendum vote on his recall to take place. He has made it quite clear that he no longer has any even tenuous claim to democratic legitimacy, and is now simply a tyrant.

Unfortunately, he and Chavez also seemingly did a quite thorough job in purging the Venezuelan officer corps of anyone who might be a threat, but if the generals did manage to assert some backbone, they wouldn't even need to grab power. This need not be a junta. They could even just arrest Madura, and then declare him an enemy of the state. Cleaner to simply kill him, but the military doing this still likely would be far less bloody than the civilian population being forced to do the job. That might end in a massacre with Madura still in charge.

But it seems all but inevitable unless oil prices suddenly rise dramatically.

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How had we gotten here?

One staple of every radio talk show was, of course, the bias of the mainstream media. This was, indeed, a target-rich environment. But as we learned this year, we had succeeded in persuading our audiences to ignore and discount any information from the mainstream media. Over time, we’d succeeded in delegitimizing the media altogether — all the normal guideposts were down, the referees discredited.

That left a void that we conservatives failed to fill. For years, we ignored the birthers, the racists, the truthers and other conspiracy theorists who indulged fantasies of Mr. Obama’s secret Muslim plot to subvert Christendom, or who peddled baseless tales of Mrs. Clinton’s murder victims. Rather than confront the purveyors of such disinformation, we changed the channel because, after all, they were our allies, whose quirks could be allowed or at least ignored.

We destroyed our own immunity to fake news, while empowering the worst and most reckless voices on the right.

This was not mere naïveté. It was also a moral failure, one that now lies at the heart of the conservative movement even in its moment of apparent electoral triumph. Now that the election is over, don’t expect any profiles in courage from the Republican Party pushing back against those trends; the gravitational pull of our binary politics is too strong.
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This is simply a result of the wedge strategy. That is a method by which Creationists hope to cast doubt on all facts, so that their silly superstition will seem to make as much sense as the theory of evolution. The right wing in the USA has depended on ignoring truth for a long time now, and they have no reason to stop doing that. After all, if they acknowledged truth, then they would have to admit that most of their ideals and ideas were false.
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This is simply a result of the wedge strategy. That is a method by which Creationists hope to cast doubt on all facts, so that their silly superstition will seem to make as much sense as the theory of evolution. The right wing in the USA has depended on ignoring truth for a long time now, and they have no reason to stop doing that. After all, if they acknowledged truth, then they would have to admit that most of their ideals and ideas were false.
But why do they like incest so much?
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They have to, that is how their God made them. Reread Genesis if you're interested in the exact details.
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They have to, that is how their God made them. Reread Genesis if you're interested in the exact details.
Which Genesis and which part of it do you mean?
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How do you mean, which Genesis? Is there more than one?
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Wiki says yes.

Check how all of humanity resulted from couplings between Adam, Eve and their sons.
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Check how all of humanity resulted from couplings between Adam, Eve and their sons.
Couplings between Adam and his sons? Now that is a stretch.

I have made the deduction that if a breeding program starts with one male and one female, the next generation can't breed with anyone but a close blood relative. Thus the Book of Genesis is an incest story. However there is also a school of thought that insists that since Eve was created from a part of Adam they were blood related and the whole thing was incestuous from the first coupling. I wasn't sure which you meant.

As the bible never mentions Adam and Eve having a daughter, it's apparently okay to be a motherf*cker. Presumably daughters and sisters turned up at some generations, but it's hard to say which you can breed with. This would be easier to figure out if God would just admit that he is a perv.
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Well, Cain found a wife, possibly in the land of Nod where he went after he'd invented murder. He then got a son, who apparently was crowd enough all by himself to feel the need to build an actual city for him. Only a few generations further there were enough women for one man to have two wives, apparently.

All in all, it seems possible that God had made some wife producing machine somewhere, which probably got buried in the Great Flood.
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Didn't they just need a rib to make a woman back in those days?
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Didn't they just need a rib to make a woman back in those days?
As opposed to now when you need sperm and ovum? Isn't that increase in efficiency proof of evolution?
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As opposed to now when you need sperm and ovum? Isn't that increase in efficiency proof of evolution?
Wouldn't say that adding 9 months of assembly and 18ish years of fine-tuning is more efficient though.
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Wouldn't say that adding 9 months of assembly and 18ish years of fine-tuning is more efficient though.
The 9 months part I give you, but I say a woman is more of a woman for having lived a childhood. And 18 is still a girl legal adult or not. Woman is closer to 28. And of course we get to keep our ribs. Better quality for less expence is more efficient even if the method is more time consuming.
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On the other hand, the traditional method fits better with the RIB America theme of this thread. Which, come to think of it, may be why the Republicans won. Obviously, if Sukoto hadn't started this thread then Trump would have lost.
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Couplings between Adam and his sons? Now that is a stretch.

I have made the deduction that if a breeding program starts with one male and one female, the next generation can't breed with anyone but a close blood relative. Thus the Book of Genesis is an incest story. However there is also a school of thought that insists that since Eve was created from a part of Adam they were blood related and the whole thing was incestuous from the first coupling. I wasn't sure which you meant.

As the bible never mentions Adam and Eve having a daughter, it's apparently okay to be a motherf*cker. Presumably daughters and sisters turned up at some generations, but it's hard to say which you can breed with. This would be easier to figure out if God would just admit that he is a perv.
Its almost as if the entire story is a parable written by bronze age goat herders and is something that shouldn't be taken literally...almost.
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The whole point of saying it was a rib is that "man and woman" are supposed to be two parts of a whole...its a symbolism for what a biblical marriage is supposed to be. Obviously, God could have easily just used dust like he did with Adam. Its symbolism and not meant to be taken literally.

Another interpretation (used by non-Baptists) is that God used a rib instead of another body part to show that Man and Woman were equal. The Bible describes Eve as a "suitable helper" which lots of idiots use to suppress women (shocker I know). However, the Greek word used literally means suitable in the sense of "opposite strengths, fitting together". Ie Man and Woman have strengths in different areas but they compliment each other and strengthen each other overall. Neither is subservient to the other under that definition and that was the intent there.

Its a story, not factual history.
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The whole point of saying it was a rib is that "man and woman" are supposed to be two parts of a whole...its a symbolism for what a biblical marriage is supposed to be. Obviously, God could have easily just used dust like he did with Adam. Its symbolism and not meant to be taken literally.

Another interpretation (used by non-Baptists) is that God used a rib instead of another body part to show that Man and Woman were equal. The Bible describes Eve as a "suitable helper" which lots of idiots use to suppress women (shocker I know). However, the Greek word used literally means suitable in the sense of "opposite strengths, fitting together". Ie Man and Woman have strengths in different areas but they compliment each other and strengthen each other overall. Neither is subservient to the other under that definition and that was the intent there.

Its a story, not factual history.
Are you saying the bible is a lie?
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