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  • 1

    Interview: Jul, 2002

    Question

    In the scene during which the taint is cleansed, Cadsuane uses a ter’angreal that detects the One Power being channeled and the direction it is coming from. She watches the ter’angreal, and when the enemy channels, she points, and someone attacks. Why doesn’t it point to the huge amounts of the One Power that Rand and Nynaeve are channeling – far more than the Forsaken are being pegged for?

    Robert Jordan

    Cadsuane’s ter’angreal was made during the Breaking of the World, at a time when men and women no longer linked, or at least very rarely, since male channelers were going mad at a rate of knots. What the maker was particularly interested in detecting was men channeling, but a man channeling in combination with a woman was, by definition, safe, because no woman was going to link with a man unless she knew absolutely that he was sane and not going to go over the edge into insanity while they were linked. Thus, saidin and saidar being worked in combination could be ignored, and in fact would be a distraction, since this was and is a warning device. Cadsuane’s ter’angreal won’t point to the two halves of the Power being wielded in combination.

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  • 2

    Interview: Jan 25th, 2005

    Week 10 Question

    Now that Shadar Logoth is gone, (cool way to get rid of it by the way), has the evil power in Padan Fain/Mordeth/the Ruby Dagger decreased any? Has it driven him even more insane? Or since the next book is called Knife of Dreams, will all these questions be answered in it?

    Robert Jordan

    The evil power in Padan Fain has neither decreased nor increased, nor has that in the dagger. The corruption in him was partly caused by the taint on Shadar Logoth, but it didn't constitute a real connection to the city. Remember that it was because he was Padan Fain, the Hound of the Shadow, that he was able to leave Shadar Logoth in his new condition after he merged with/absorbed Mordeth. (By the way, any other artifacts that might be lying around from Shadar Logoth would have the same long-term corrupting effect as the dagger. Fortunately, or unfortunately, any such thing would need to be metal or stone. The wood and fabric had decayed. It wouldn't have been pleasant to get a splinter from, say, a chair from Shadar Logoth.)

    The destruction of Shadar Logoth has not driven Fain any more insane. I'm not certain he'd be able to function at all if he were any madder than he already is. But being insane doesn't make him any less dangerous, only less predictable. He no longer responds to situations or events in any sort of sane, logical manner. His abiding concerns are hatred of Rand al'Thor (and to a lesser degree Mat and Perrin) because he blames them for what the Dark One did to him in order to turn him into the Shadow's Hound, and hatred for the Dark One because of what the Dark One did to him. He goes after Rand because Rand is the easiest target in his mind, but if he can take a swipe at the Dark One or the Dark One's minions in some way that he felt would cause real harm, he'd leap at it.

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  • 3

    Interview: Jan 25th, 2005

    Week 15 Question

    At the risk of being RAFO'd: Mesaana was punished for ignoring her orders to go to stop Rand from cleansing saidin. Was Semirhage also punished for ignoring orders, or did she have special exemption? (If you're going to RAFO us, consider giving us some other little tidbit instead?)

    Robert Jordan

    Semirhage was present at Shadar Logoth, though not seen. You didn't see Graendal, either, though admittedly Moghedien thought of her, thinking it would be good if she or Cyndane died. If I always tried to show everyone who was present at a battle or the like, the books would be a LOT longer than they are now. And those battles would get rather boring, a list of names. Go down the checklist and make sure everyone gets mentioned. Boring. Anyway, Mesaana was the only one who tried to sit it out. By the way, Moridin also was not present, for reasons that will become self-evident as you read on.

    By the by, Rand and his companions very likely would have been killed or captured if the Forsaken were not who they are, if they had been willing to form links and coordinate their attacks. But they suffer from a combination of arrogance toward the "ignorant peasants" of the current Age and distrust of one another. Forming a link is all very well, but who leads? Which of them would be willing to give up control over their own ability and put it completely under the control of another of them? Who are you willing to let get behind your back in a fight? Moghedien? Semirhage? I didn't think so.

    Footnote

    We did see Graendal at the Cleansing, actually; Verin's group encountered her. As for the 'self-evident' reasons why Moridin was not there, it likely has to do with the sickness caused by his link with Rand (we saw in Knife of Dreams that Moridin also suffers from it). Short of that, it almost surely has something to do with the link between them.

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  • 4

    Interview: 2010

    HBFFerreira (18 July 2010)

    Was the attempt on Rand at the end of The Path of Daggers caused by Torval learning his plan to cleanse the taint? Did Moridin order it?

    Brandon Sanderson (19 July 2010)

    RAFO, though that is the best theory I read before I became involved in this. It's very credible.

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  • 5

    Interview: 2011

    Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)

    Terez

    For a complete catalog of Brandon's tweets, visit the Twitter Portal at Brandon's website.

    Brandon Sanderson (3 January 2011)

    Happy New Year, all. It is official—I have begun working on A Memory of Light, fourteenth and final book of The Wheel of Time.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    I have updated the progress bars on my website with this year's tasks. I'll try to be better about keeping them current.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    The first step is to re-read the entire Wheel of Time. Towers of Midnight had some small continuity errors—mostly me forgetting who knows what.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    We fixed them for the paperback, but it is a sign that I'm starting to forget details. That means I need to re-read Mr. Jordan's work.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    I fully expect this re-read to take until April. I need to divide my time among reading, outlining, and studying the notes.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    By the way, I did get a Nook for my birthday. So I'm in the process of getting e-copies of the WoT uploaded.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    Since people are asking, the continuity errors were things like Grady telling Perrin about the Cleansing as if for the first time, but...

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    ...there's a line in Knife of Dreams where Perrin notes that they'd mentioned it to him. We don't see the conversation, but it's there in narrative.

    AJ ZAETHA

    Need a devout reader of the Wheel of Time to watch over what you are writing so they can be like: "He died in book five." "oh."

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    The thing is, I had eight of those for Towers of Midnight. They all missed these too. It was the time crunch that did it to us, I think.

    BENJAMIN PEACOCK

    No biggie, but did you fix for ebook by chance?

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    Yes, it should be all fixed for the ebook.

    MICHELLE ANDERS

    Also the fact that Min's viewings aren't always around Aes Sedai when they are supposed to be.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    I'm working on the assumption (as she's said before) that she doesn't always pay attention to them, as there's so many of them.

    CHRIS NUCCITELLI (7 JANUARY)

    Is there a list somewhere of the continuity changes made for the Towers of Midnight paperback?

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    Not yet. Many things fans pointed out weren't actually errors, but the Theoryland thread caught most of the things we changed.

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  • 6

    Interview: Nov 14th, 2000

    SciFi.com Chat (Verbatim)

    Nevik

    Can you give some more details on how the taint was cleansed? I was sort of confused reading the book.

    Robert Jordan

    Sorry...I can't.

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  • 7

    Interview: Dec 12th, 2000

    CNN Chat (Verbatim)

    Elzabet

    Does the healing of the taint reverse its previous effects? Or does the victim have to live with whatever he's gotten to that point and be grateful it won't get worse?

    Robert Jordan

    The second.

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  • 8

    Interview: Apr 4th, 2001

    Isabel

    Can you give some more details on how the taint was cleansed? I was sort of confused reading the book.

    Robert Jordan

    You don't think it's obvious? Err, let's see. You have... You're using both repulsion and attraction of opposites here. Repulsion of things that are opposite and [attraction] of things that are the same. The Taint upon [saidin] as versus the conduit, which is made of saidar through which the saidin passes. The saidin and saidar, as men and women, are in many ways opposite. It repels one another. It is safe to make this conduit of saidar between saidin and Shadar Logoth, because there can be no mixing. As the eh... as [saidin] passes through, as the taint passes through, the saidar actually repels it, pushes it away from [saidin]..., alright?

    Now, you have a taint on... the eh Source, the male half of the Source, you have the taint on Shadar Logoth. They're not the same, yet they are. The taint on Shadar Logoth did not come from the Dark One. The taint was created by humans, who believed that they must do whatever was necessary, anything that was necessary to defeat the Shadow. And because they would accept no limits to what they would do, to what could be done, to what needed to be done, they created their own destruction. Their evil is, or was, as great as that of the Dark One, but diametrically opposite. It is an evil created for the best of intentions, created for good intentions. So it is the opposite. So, this attraction created the conduit begins to pull the taint from [saidin] to siphon it off. Remember, it's always been described it's not as mixed all through [saidin], it is like a thin skin of rancidness, think of a thin skin of rancid oil floating on a pond, and if you get through it, you've got clean water, but you can't get through it without putting your hand in that oil. You're getting it on your hand...

    To attract one another because they are opposites, but because even being opposite, they have gone far enough around the circle, they act to destroy one another. You see, it's not opposites along a straight line. We're actually talking opposites along a circle. Continuing the motif of the Wheel of Time, if you will. So you've got two things that are both opposites and the same. [He's been waving his hands in the air for this. Hands far apart for the straight line versus hands together, making a circle and coming together again] That will both attract one another and negate one another.

    Do you understand better now?

    Isabel

    Yes, thank you.

    Robert Jordan

    Oh, and one last point: It's all imaginary my dear...

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  • 9

    Interview: Apr 4th, 2001

    Aan'allein

    Do Sarene and Corele have ageless faces? He didn't seen to recall the names, so I said "at the end of Winter's Heart, the Aes Sedai with Flinn who attack Demandred..."

    Robert Jordan

    Uh yeah, uh well, no no. Uh, some of them do, yes, some of them have ageless faces, but not all of them.

    Aan'allein

    But do the two who were in the circle with Flinn have ageless faces?

    Robert Jordan

    Oh, let's see.. oh, the two who were in the circle with Min?

    Aan'allein

    Flinn.

    Robert Jordan

    Flinn, ah... Just trying to remember which ones I had with which one...

    Aan'allein

    Sarene and Corele.

    Robert Jordan

    Sarene Nemdahl does have an ageless face and ehh... I think Masuri... no Masuri was not.... I'm sorry, I actually forgot who I...

    Aan'allein

    [And then the silly man who had done the interview interrupted us and talked about the time and that it was getting late. So I thanked Jordan and circled around the line to go stand close to the table where he was signing, see if I could pick up any more interesting tidbits. Well, at least we now know for sure that one of the Aes Sedai had an ageless face, so that Demandred should have seen this if he was as close to them as those opposing Taimandred claim.]

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  • 10

    Interview: Apr 8th, 2001

    Gonzo the Great

    Did Demandred recognise Flinn in the last chapter of Winter's Heart?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

    GONZO THE GREAT

    Naturally :( .

    GONZO THE GREAT

    Would Taim have recognised Flinn, in that position?

    ROBERT JORDAN

    Yes.

    GONZO THE GREAT

    Not expected, but not helpful either because of [the previous answer].

    GONZO THE GREAT

    Did you intend in Winter's Heart to make it clear that Demandred is not Taim?

    ROBERT JORDAN

    RAFO.

    GONZO THE GREAT

    Obvious :D .

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  • 11

    Interview: Apr 8th, 2001

    Isabel

    Can you tell me something more about how the taint was cleansed?

    Robert Jordan

    Shadar Logoth and the taint destroyed each other. -> Taint is destroyed.

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  • 12

    Interview: Apr 5th, 2001

    Aan'allein

    When Damer Flinn and Sarene and Corele attacked Demandred, how far away were they? In yards, meters, ...?

    Robert Jordan

    Ah...no, they were eh... [long silence while he's thinking] no, no, no...Damer Flinn and Corele eh... no, no, that's meters...just some meters. Err, they couldn't have come face-to-face. That's eh... Yeah, it's not a short, not a really...not like you and me.

    Aan'allein

    ...he didn't see the ageless faces...

    Robert Jordan

    ... [nothing really, he was done signing then, but no contradiction either]

    Aan'allein

    The general idea I now have is that it was something like 10, maybe 20 meters between them. Not the 100+ meters I'd kinda expected.

    All in all it was a pretty short session, but well worth it, even with all the added travel time.

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  • 13

    Interview: Dec 9th, 2002

    Question

    Was Erian Boroleos meant to disappear during the battle at Shadar Logoth or was that a mistake?

    Robert Jordan

    Erian Boroleos was not meant to disappear. In my notes, she is placed guarding those with Cadsuane who cannot channel and not too pleased about it (there are reasons why she was chosen out for this, which I won't go into here), and there is even a note (under CHECKS AND CORRECTIONS, a category I use to make sure that I haven't blinked at the wrong time) to make sure of mentioning her in passing. It didn't happen, for which, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I was so certain that I had done it, that I didn't find out I hadn't until the paperback came out, but a correction will be made.

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  • 14

    Interview: Apr 6th, 2001

    Moridin

    When/if Rand manages to remove the taint placed on saidin, are the people infected with it cured? Or does their condition remain the way it is?

    Robert Jordan

    When/if the taint is removed from saidin, further ill effects are stopped but what has already occurred remains.

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  • 15

    Interview: Apr 6th, 2001

    Lupis

    Is the Shara world going to be changed a lot now that their male channelers won't go mad? Will they even find out because they kill them so early anyhow?

    Robert Jordan

    Shara will not be changed by the fact that male channelers won't go mad because they kill men who might possibly be able to channel at a very young age. Those guys are nothing but breeding stock, kept utterly innocent and utterly ignorant until they are killed.

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  • 16

    Interview: Apr 6th, 2001

    lowlander

    Question concerning Winter's Heart: What happened to the female ter'angreal Choedan Kal, what didn't happen to the male ter'angreal Choedan Kal?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO!

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  • 17

    Interview: Apr 8th, 2001

    Robert Jordan

    Hrm, but that wasn't all. I distinctly remember someone asking, "Did Demandred recognize Flinn?", getting answered RAFO, followed by a question "Would Taim recognize Flinn in a similar circumstance?", being answered that "yes, he should" if the distance wasn't too large or something.

    But then I mentioned that the distance wasn't all that great, just a couple of meters, he'd said so just a few days before, and he looked at me in a way that said, "you know all you need to know about this, I'm not going to make it any more obvious."

    Aan'allein

    I know it isn't proof, and I hate my guts for not taping this so I'm capable of showing something tangible, but the way it was all said, the way it played out...I don't believe Taimandred anymore. Not just because of this actually. I already had the feeling last Friday, after another mention of the "seen something pretty out of the corner of their eye / for the last third they must have read someone else's books" about the FAQ. Although there was something more, something about that he doesn't work "that way." Again it wasn't anything concrete, but at that point I began to doubt all our "person x = person y" theories. Added to his look at my remark about the distance (which he told me himself just two days before; he really shouldn't have tried to evade the Taim question using that), I've stopped believing in Taimandred. I hope KuraFire has a good recollection of exactly what Jordan said here.

    Oh, by the way, it is pronounced Taa-eem, not tame.

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  • 18

    Interview: Jan 16th, 2003

    Question

    Will the Ways heal now that the taint is gone?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

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  • 19

    Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005

    Isabel

    A question from me again (sometimes me with my horrible accent has to repeat the question a few times, for him to get it). Although if I remember correctly it was Aan'allein's question.

    How did Aginor manage to sense the Shadar Logoth dagger in the The Eye of the World?

    Robert Jordan

    That has to do with the end of Winter's Heart. How many of you have read it?

    (everyone but one raising their hands; well at least after asking who has not read it)

    It's an effect of resonance. The dagger is the same evil as the evil of Shadar Logoth. You can say it's diametrically opposite to the taint, that's the evil on saidin. Rand, at one point in Shadar Logoth, feels them pulsing with each other. And especially in the wounds on his side. There is a resonance created. A positive and negative pulse of evil, you might say.

    Isabel

    So it doesn't require actual channeling?

    Robert Jordan

    No, but you have to be close to it. It's not something you can sense from a close distance use to track Padan Fain down.

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  • 20

    Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005

    Question

    I know the male side of the source is clean but those who were driven mad before, will they be cured?

    Robert Jordan

    No. Whatever the degree of taint channelers have won't change. (They won't get more.)

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  • 21

    Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005

    Question

    Someone had a question about Machin Shin in the Ways. Since it seems to absorb the creatures that pass through there, could you regard it as a servant of the Dark One or perhaps almost as a Forsaken?

    Robert Jordan

    It's not a servant of the Dark One. It will kill Trollocs or anything else. You can say it's a parasite that grew in the Ways because of the taint and the One Power that was used to initially create the Ways. The talisman of growing that was used to extend the Ways. So it's not a servant of the Dark One, but it's definitely on the evil side.

    Question

    Would it be cleaned with the Cleansing of saidin?

    Robert Jordan

    No. Its like a bacteria breed. Just by cleaning up the chemicals that caused the bacteria to come into existence, unless it's feeding on that, those chemicals, you are not going to destroy the bacteria. You simply cut off what helped to create it.

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  • 22

    Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005

    Question

    I was wondering, how did Rand stop the taint by channeling at Shadar Logoth because you said the taint and the evil at Shadar Logoth are different. Also, because Shadar Logoth came well after the taint, was there any way to stop it?

    Robert Jordan

    No, there was no way to stop it or make it weaker (the Shadar Logoth evil). But when Rand made the conduit, they were attracted to each other due to opposite polarities, and they were attracted to each other and destroyed each other because of those differences, and it created a huge explosion.

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  • 23

    Interview: Oct 4th, 2005

    Robert Jordan

    For Sidious, when Alivia faced Cyndane, Alivia was by far the stronger because of her angreal, and had various tools (ter'angreal) to work with besides, but Cyndane was much, much more knowledgeable about channeling. Alivia, after all, knew relatively little except how to be a weapon. That was very useful in the situation, but in this case, knowledge versus strength made it an even match.

    Now as to Rahvin sitting on his throne and being shocked to see Rand. First off, he knew his first trap hadn't worked, but he had others ready. He saw no reason to start jumping about. He thought he was maneuvering Rand into a series of traps, one of which he was sure would work. He did not expect Rand to simply leap into the same room with him. He did not expect Rand to know that he could Travel to somewhere in sight of himself without knowing the ground. So what he had expected to be a chess game where he knew the positions of all the pieces and Rand did not suddenly turned into a close-quarters slugging match. Surprise!

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  • 24

    Interview: Oct 4th, 2005

    Robert Jordan

    For foxhead, I think you'll find this covered elsewhere, but here goes. The evil of Shadar Logoth and the evil of the Shadow might be considered positive and negative poles. They attract, as do the positive and negative poles of two magnets, but if they make contact, the result is more like making contact between the positive and negative poles of your car battery. Big sparks. Really big sparks.

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  • 25

    Interview: Oct 5th, 2005

    Robert Jordan

    For Comet Sedai, no, Slayer didn't kill Laura Palmer. But Lanfear can tie a cherry stem into a knot with her tongue. In fact, she can tie it into a square knot. Or a bowline. Or.... Well, the list goes on too long.

    Yes, the Ayyad's eyes were popping, as well as those of damane in Seanchan.

    Anyone who can channel, to however small a degree, is vulnerable to the circle of 13 trick.

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  • 26

    Interview: Nov 17th, 2009

    Question

    Will we see Nynaeve Heal the darkness that is in some of the male channelers before the Cleansing?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Nynaeve has said before, and believes, that everything can and should be able to be Healed, except for maybe death, and she certainly believes that it is possible. I'm not going to say whether or not it will happen.

    Footnote

    Nynaeve Healed Naeff's madness in Towers of Midnight 15, and spoke of Healing other Asha'man as well. Since RJ said that the One Power can't be used to Heal insanity, this has led to some heated discussion. Those inclined to give Brandon the benefit of the doubt have suggested that what Nynaeve did wasn't technically Healing (she did specify that she didn't use Healing weaves).

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  • 27

    Interview: Apr 17th, 2011

    Terez (sleepinghour)

    Why did the female Choedan Kal melt at the cleansing but not the male one?

    Brandon Sanderson

    I’m out on a limb on this one, so this one is basically Brandon assumptions without as much substantiation...The female one is...you know that male channelers tend to be a bit stronger. My understanding is that the female Choedan Kal...they weren’t built with equal power levels; they were built with power levels of equivalent [or respective power potential], and so the amount of power pulled through was almost enough to destroy the male, but was enough to destroy the female as I understand, but that one’s out on a limb.

    Terez

    It might possibly have something to do with the fact that Nynaeve is not at the top of the female strength level, but Rand is at the top.

    Brandon Sanderson

    Both of them are kind of drops in the bucket compared to what the Choedan Kal can do. I honestly don’t think that was a factor. It is a valid theory, though, because in that case Rand is contributing more, and Nynaeve’s sa’angreal needs to contribute more, if that makes sense. And so...I mean, that could be valid, but the first one was my understanding, but I’m like way out on a limb on that one. I’m not sure on that one at all.

    Footnote—Terez

    Since Brandon made it clear that my theory was valid, I'll explain my reasoning: Verin believed that only Siuan, Moiraine, Elaida, and the supergirls were strong enough to use the female Choedan Kal, so apparently one's strength does make a difference in whether or not one could handle a super-sa'angreal, whether or not Verin was correct about who could handle it and who could not (she seemed to think Logain could not handle the male one, but she was probably wrong). Of course, she might have been lying, but what was her motive for lying to Perrin about it? Also, RJ fairly consistently places the strongest channelers with the angreal and sa'angreal in group efforts, presumably because strong channelers can get more out of them. (Rand, Nynaeve, Alivia; and with the Bowl of the Winds: Nynaeve, Aviendha, and Talaan; etc.)

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  • 28

    Interview: Nov 16th, 2010

    Julien

    He also asked what was the riddle that the Snakes & Foxes told Rand that gave him the answer about how to cleanse saidin. We know their answer to "How can I win the Last Battle?", "How can I survive the Last Battle?" and we know the result of Rand's third answer about cleansing the source but we don't know what the riddle was.

    Brandon Sanderson

    Brandon was not sure if he could tell us this without giving something away so he got an email and find out on this question.

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  • 29

    Interview: Aug 31st, 2011

    Reddit AMA 2011 (Verbatim)

    Ted Herman ()

    Did the Dark One try to resist when Rand cleansed saidin?

    Brandon Sanderson

    His resistance was primarily through the people he sent.

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  • 30

    Interview: Apr, 2001

    Robert Jordan

    He explained a bit more about the cleansing of the taint, but enough has been said about that here already I'd think.

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  • 31

    Interview: Apr 8th, 2001

    Sydo Zandstra

    In one or two threads I have been wondering for a while why Erian Boroleos (Green) wasn't assigned to one of the circles that were defending Rand while he and Nynaeve were cleansing saidin. (See Pam's Winter's Heart notes for the details; IIRC it has been placed under the header 'possible screw-ups') So I asked RJ when I had the chance:

    Me: "Could you tell me if Erian was present in the battle near Shadar Logoth, when Rand was cleansing saidin?"

    Robert Jordan

    [looking up] Who?

    SYDO ZANDSTRA

    Erian, one of the captured Green sisters who swore fealty to Rand. Did she take part in the battle, or was she somewhere else?

    ROBERT JORDAN

    Oh. Yes, she was there. RAFO.

    SYDO ZANDSTRA

    This could either mean that Erian did something special that we don't know about, or that RJ forgot about her while writing the last chapters. On the other hand, possibly RJ thought I meant Elsa (who was definitely there). Perhaps Erian wasn't there but went to Tear with Alanna instead. I guess we'll find out in a year or so...

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  • 32

    Interview: Apr, 2013

    Question

    What about the Waygates? If they were tainted by the Power were they cleansed when saidin was?

    Maria Simons

    No, the Ways were not cleansed when the Source was. Robert Jordan said, "It's like a bacteria breed. Just by cleaning up the chemicals that caused the bacteria to come into existence, unless it's feeding on that, those chemicals, you are not going to destroy the bacteria. You simply cut off what helped to create it."

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