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And what if, during the Last Battle, it was discovered that using the name pisses off the Dark One, because if everyone used it at once, it would fragment his consciousness in so many directions, it would destroy his power. If that was my weakness, I'd mess up anybody who said my name too.
Not sure if this in anywhere on this board, but You can see where Tarmon Gaidon is if you go to Google Earth.
Mat and Perrin will function as a diversionary force being critical in buying time while Rand leads a relatively small strike force to finish the job at Pit of Dhoom. For some reason it will be very crucial that forces of Light will not cave in before Rand finishes whatever he's doing.
In the final installment, I foresee Rand being aided directly at Tarmon Gaidon by either Alivia and Nynaeve OR Avienda and Elayne. Alivia and Nynaeve will have the strength between them to resist the taint through the male adam, and control Rand wielding Callandor (something else requiring women working with him) - thereby circumventing hisenduring dizziness (despite cleansing the True Source). Also, this may allow Alivia to support LTT's demise while keeping Rand alive.
When all is lost, I believe that Bale Fire will be instrumental in the last scene and it will be used by both Nyneve and Rand, or maybe Logain, with those two big sa'angreal, Choedan Kal. When its used, the power will be immense and either Moridan or the dark one will be essentially completely removed from the pattern. Perhaps Rand will keep the bad guys busy while Logain and Nyneve do what they need to do and his wound will break open, etc.,
ok here we go...
In the LB Rand will lead some of the main characters to Shayol Ghul in a sneak attack, almost like Lews Therin. Mat and Perrin must be there to, due to Min's constant vision of sparks of light against darkness she always gets from the three.
Rand will die and somehow defeat the darkone.
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Rating: 1
This time the last battle will cause the wheel of time and the pattern to break. The Dark One will be fused with the Creator. Saidar will be merged with Saidin (creating Sardine :) No more prophecies, ta'veren, and predetermined / unchangeable future.
By Westof8th on 2012-04-09
Rating: 3.67
Fain will replace or kill the dark one. Either Rand will win against shai tan (something to do with shaidar haran probably) and then shut fain in the bore, or the dark one will win, but fain will kill/battle him for taking Rands life, which fain sees as his.
By oddjob192 on 2012-03-27
Rating: 6
When Rand wins Tarmon Gai'don, the sun will shine finally at Shayol Ghul, fulfilling the Twice Dawns the Day line in the Karatheon Cycle.
By WinespringBrother on 2012-03-22
Rating: 2.33
Rand kills The Dark One. Since the Wheel can't turn without a balance of Light & Dark. Padan Fain becomes the New Dark One (NDO)
By JustMo on 2012-01-26
Rating: 2.17
Rand will defeat shaidar harran, who is linked to the dark one in such a way that shai'tan is killed. but fain will kill Rand almost immediaately after. this will all take place inside the bore, and they will have been sealed in by rands order(probably by perrin). The wheel of time will thus continue, as fain will replace shai'tan as the dark one.(maybe moridin could also become the dark one but i believe that he might switch sides back to the light once he sees the dark one can be defeated, because of his big speech that says that he only betrayed them because he saw the darkones victory as inevitable).
By oddjob192 on 2012-01-03
Rating: 5.17
Padan Fain will play a key role in determining that this last battle is THE final last battle. And the Light gains a decisive victory over the DO.
By DarkHound on 2011-11-29
Rating: 2.5
Time travel involved w/ the last battle, "Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed". Possibly a resurrection due to the time travel.
By jmanidb on 2011-08-11
Rating: 6.25
The 3 ta'veren will be instrumental in fighting the Last Battle. The Dark One will attempt to rip apart and destroy the age lace, but the power of the 3 of them being together will cause a ton of threads to converge to one point (the battle) and make a metaphorical rope. This will give humanity the strength to withstand the Dark One when Rand breaks all of the seals and releases it.
By ninja on 2010-12-29
Rating: 5.33
Moiraine and Nynaeve must be the two women to create a circle with Rand to wield Callandor. Rand will have a hand created by Perrin, Moiraine will have her bracelet and Nynaeve will have her wells,rings and net.This will protect Rand while the circle is in place. He must trust the women who help him; the DO will not be able to poison that link to the power.
By cadsuaneII000 on 2010-11-25
Rating: 2.6
Galad's blood will be the blood of the dragon shed at Shayol Ghul; the image from Min's vision of the two men laying on the ground with Trollocs surrounding them is of Luc/slayer( two souled and of two worlds) finally separated in death... and Tam will kill him; that is the image of the pipe from Min's vision.
By cadsuaneII000 on 2010-11-24
Rating: 3.5
Thakandar will be balefired, causing a sudden drop in the Shadowspawn population and allowing safe passage to the Pit of Doom
By WG on 2010-11-23
Rating: 2.83
Mat has already given up half the light of the world by starting to develop gunpowder. The OP will be destroyed ushering in a new age, the age of technology.
By Myth on 2010-09-29
Rating: 2.6
I predict that Mat's Dragons and Dragon Eggs role in the final two books will be limited to the defense of Caemlyn.
By Tenesmus on 2010-09-08
Rating: 5.2
The 3 Becoming One that Min speaks of with Cadsuane at the end of GS will be Aviendha and Elayne working with Rand and The Sword that is not a Sword during the last battle.
By simalibim on 2010-07-10
Rating: 3
I predict that the basis for the new "Dreadlords" that will fight at Tarmon Gaidon will be those Darkfiend Asha'man lead by Marzim Taim, and the Aes Sedai they've bonded or been bonded by.
By gcozyone on 2010-02-21
Rating: 2
The DO will be destroyed or resealed using a new source of Power, the opposite of the True Power - channeled directly from the creator himself. The Power of the Light?
By Hundred and First Companion on 2009-11-19
Rating: 8
Rand will use the true power when sealing the dark ones prison, thus preventing a backlash onto saidin or saidar.
By Corax on 2009-11-12
Rating: 1
I believe that Rand will destroy the Dark One at Tarmon Gaidon with the inadvertent help of Moridin. Moridin will be sealed in the Dark One's prison and He will be the Dark One in the next age.
By gnebm on 2009-10-09
Rating: 2
Everyone from the Isle of Madmen will turn out to be direct descendants of AS who survived the breaking (or maybe the descendants of the 100 Companions) and will reveal that they still have all of the knowledge from the AoL, and use it to destroy the DO.
By Zanlin on 2009-09-09
Rating: 4.14
Padon Fain will be present as a second evil challenging the DO but accidently helping Rand and the armies of the light, and he will also have to be present to seal the bore like Rand used Shadar logoth to remove the Taint from Saidin, but the logoth Dager will prbably used again on Rand and cut him while in a three way duel between Rand Wielding Callandor(or power roought Sword, or the sword he got from Aviendha), Moridin using some power rought sword, or shadow rought steel, and Padin Fain using Logoth Dagger
By lordoftwilight on 2008-08-02
Rating: 4.57
I predict that the Sealing of the DO's prison during TG will burn the ability to channel out of mankind, leaving ALL humanity unable to channel for an entire age.
By Woolhead on 2008-06-19
Rating: 1.57
And what if, during the Last Battle, it was discovered that using the name pisses off the Dark One, because if everyone used it at once, it would fragment his consciousness in so many directions, it would destroy his power. If that was my weakness, I'd mess up anybody who said my name too.
That's my prediction, but probably way off base.
By Rahien Sorei on 2008-01-07
Rating: 1.43
When the dark one breaks free all channelers, male and female, will realise that Rand truly is their only hope and will create the biggest circle ever made. Rand will control the circle of all channelers in randland with the choedan kal in his remaining hand, drawing such immense amounts of power that he will either destroy DO or reseal the prison as though it were never broken/possibly to the point where it can never be broken again
By Mat Caution on 2007-11-30
Rating: 2.14
Rand and Fain will ally themselves temporarily while fighting the Shadow.
By Mort on 2007-10-19
Rating: 6.57
No matter how the last battle goes down, most readers will tell people they 'knew it all along.'
By evilbeaver on 2007-10-02
Rating: 1.5
Not sure if this in anywhere on this board, but You can see where Tarmon Gaidon is if you go to Google Earth.
Spin Africa a bit crooked to line Cape Verde up with Tremalking or the islands to the north of Tremalking. Aile Dashar becomes the Islands of Medeira. The blight is where the Mediteranian is now. Tarmon Gaidon should be at the east side of the blight in Israel at the Armageddon Plains. Someone may blast open the gates of Heracles to flood the blight creating the Med!
Rand will pick 12 companions including Mazrim Tain to attend him at Tarmon Gaidon, but they will fail him. Rand will die willingly. Fight the dark one and rise three days later. Three womem will be there when Rand rises after all the men have given up. (Min, Avienda, and Elaine) Rand will visit with Mat and Perin and go back to the Emonds Field and retire.
By jhvanriper on 2007-09-22
Rating: 3.57
Mat and Perrin will function as a diversionary force being critical in buying time while Rand leads a relatively small strike force to finish the job at Pit of Dhoom. For some reason it will be very crucial that forces of Light will not cave in before Rand finishes whatever he's doing.
Alternatively we could see almost copy of how LTT did it. Mat leads the Band as "the 20000 men army" to enable/protect Rand to go mano-i-mano with the DO. Like Rand & Nynaeve where relatively helpless during the Cleansing. The battle will be fought firstly in the real world and when Rand manages to push DO back to outside of the Pattern then the third man will sacrifice himself to fix the bore and allowing Rand to escape.
By joerandlander on 2007-09-07
Rating: 1
In the final installment, I foresee Rand being aided directly at Tarmon Gaidon by either Alivia and Nynaeve OR Avienda and Elayne. Alivia and Nynaeve will have the strength between them to resist the taint through the male adam, and control Rand wielding Callandor (something else requiring women working with him) - thereby circumventing hisenduring dizziness (despite cleansing the True Source). Also, this may allow Alivia to support LTT's demise while keeping Rand alive.
However, Avienda and Elayne could be the key to controlling Rand in the same manner, as they may be the only people he trusts at that point and their bond may also give them some protection. Once he has battled the DO at Shayol Ghul, DO will kill LTT (which he wants) by splitting Rand's wound and taking his soul, but Rand will survive ( I think I'm swaying towards the two soul theory). Also, the taint of Aridhol will play a part in the defeat of the DO. Egwene will use her ability with Cuendillar and that of the other Two Rivers Girls to reseal the Bore. The DO is part of a balance and therefore cannot be destroyed utterly, so he must be captive for the next age turning, when it will start again.
By Mierin-dreamwalker on 2007-07-11
Rating: 1.89
I predict that in some way, shape or form, Shara will play a part in the Last Battle, fighting for the light.
By PillowFriends on 2007-06-25
Rating: 2.78
I believe that when the Prophecy says twice dawns the Day that it is saying once for the actual dawn of the day a second time for the dawning of the fourth age at the end of Tarmon Giadon.
By lordoftwilight on 2007-01-30
Rating: 2.09
I believe that instead of Rand dying at Tarmon Gaidon, what will happen instead will be that his two children will be captured by the forsaken and be killed at Tarmon Gaidon thus fulfilling the prophecies of Rands blood.
By Lan098 on 2006-12-14
Rating: 2.4
All channelers will be unable to channel, leaving ter'angreal as the primary weapons.
By WG on 2006-12-10
Rating: 2.55
Dragonmount will NOT erupt.
By Sarevok on 2006-12-07
Rating: 2.09
In the New Testament 666 is the number of the beast. In Randland 6 men and 66 women channeling will create or become the beast (dragon).
By PessimisticPunk on 2006-12-06
Rating: 1.82
The ayyad/shara men will bring men and women who can channel to fight at TG, and there'll be more men channeling from there than in than all of randland.
By vardene on 2006-12-02
Rating: 1.56
I predict that Rand will level the whole mountain with balefire, so that only the pit is left...then he can battle the DO
By snakes-n-foxes on 2006-11-21
Rating: 4
I predict that on the day of Tarmon Gaidon, there will be an eclipse of the sun (echoing Christian mythology). Perhaps this will be caused by Tarmon Gaidon itself, possibly by the energies released through the use of the Choden Cal/Callandor.
By macewan on 2006-11-08
Rating: 10
RJ will beat the Amyloids, and there will be a book twelve. What else counts?
By vardene on 2006-11-02
Rating: 5.5
I predict Rand will not have the power to defeat the Dark One. Rand will win the Last Battle by re-sealing the Dark One in his prison.
By geno on 2006-10-30
Rating: 2.5
Saidar will fail in tarmon gaidon and the power-fighting will be left up to the men. i say this because saidar has seemed to be consistently failing of late and getting worse and worse. ever since rand cleansed the source...maybe he caused an imbalance
By Herid Fel on 2006-10-11
Rating: 8
To say that Tarmon Gaidon is the last battle to ever take place is ridiculous. I Predict that there will indeed be other battles.
By BigBlade on 2006-10-02
Rating: 1.8
The Dark One will destroyed, not simply re-imprisoned at the Last Battle. As a result the Creator will also be destroyed having performed his duty and the True Source will disappear with the True Power. That means an end to Aes Sedai, the Pattern with its Age Lace and everything else that provides oppression and wonderment for the common person.
By Wonderer on 2006-08-24
Rating: 1.1
When all is lost, I believe that Bale Fire will be instrumental in the last scene and it will be used by both Nyneve and Rand, or maybe Logain, with those two big sa'angreal, Choedan Kal. When its used, the power will be immense and either Moridan or the dark one will be essentially completely removed from the pattern. Perhaps Rand will keep the bad guys busy while Logain and Nyneve do what they need to do and his wound will break open, etc.,
Then Jordan will give us a glimpse (perhaps in another two or 3 books) of what the world will become, say without Moridan/Ishy in it. The history without the Trolloc Wars that Ishy may have influenced, etc., would not happen. Also, Ishy's effect on destroying the Cuendillar will also not have taken place and forsaken and the Dark Lord won't be loose.
By Heartstone Hunter on 2006-08-10
Rating: 2
The prophecy 'North and east must be as one' will be fulfilled when all the Malkieri are assembled in Tarwins gap to fight the trollocs; the part 'south and west must be as one' was fulfilled when the Amayar all acted as one and comitted mass suicide.
By Chang on 2006-07-25
Rating: 5
Bela will kick one of the bad guys in the face.
By Farzon on 2006-07-18
Rating: 2.44
Rand will not die at Tarmon Gaidon.
By Longforgottenhisname on 2006-06-21
Rating: 2.78
Elayne will copy Mat's ter'angreal to protect all the forces from power attacks by the Forsaken/Dreadlords and thus force the Trollocs/Fades to do all the killing.
By Karede on 2006-06-21
Rating: 3.44
Rand will die, but someone will use balefire to kill whomever kills Rand, reversing time and bringing him back to life.
By dudemanguy453 on 2006-06-12
Rating: 1
ok here we go...
rand will die or be turned and the dark one will win. this will bresk the wheel, and thus break the world. shaidar haran will be the one to kill rand, somehow he will use the old wounds that rand has against him.
but after all is lost and the world belongs to the DO the creator will seal him again and remake the world. thus rand will live again to be reborn as LTT or as himself... this shall be the reckoning of RJ the lord of the dawn himself.
By DarkLordChaos on 2006-05-29
Rating: 3.89
Machin Shin will escape the Ways and show up with Mashadar and Padan Fain for an extra bit of strife and make the Last Battle a 3 way fight.
By Farzon on 2006-05-23
Rating: 2.33
For the Aes Sedai to be able to fight at the last battle in which the dark side will undoubtly have dark friends fighting with them, they will have to renounce their 3 oaths (at least 2) using the oath rod.
By kaboum on 2006-01-30
Rating: 4.43
Rand vs Moridin, Perrin the wolves and any wolf brothers he can find vs the shadowhounds and hound brothers, Matt vs any surviving golams, Logain vs Taim, egwene vs Avilrian, Elayne and Aviendah vs any forsaken they see, Nynaeve vs Moghedian, Aes sedai and Ashamen vs Dreadlords forsaken and mydrhall, the seanchen and rands army vs the dark army, moraine vs Cynade (who were pretty sure is lanfear) and the other minor characters vs any dark creatures that head their way.
By Cirrus on 2006-01-16
Rating: 3.25
In the LB Rand will lead some of the main characters to Shayol Ghul in a sneak attack, almost like Lews Therin. Mat and Perrin must be there to, due to Min's constant vision of sparks of light against darkness she always gets from the three.
Rand will also bring his dragon-legion, some Aiel (Most likely a group of Spearmaidens), his most loyal Asha'man and his Aes Sedai.
Perrin will hunt down Slayer, entering the Dreamworld.
Mat will face the Gholam since no Aes Sedai or Asha'man is fit for the fight.
Rand will take on Moridin and then Shadar Haran, Shadar Haran will be stronger than Moridin and so he will be the last opponement before the bore is shut.
(Demandred, Greandal and Mesaana will be taken out before the LB, Mesaana will get beaten up by Egwene and Demandred by Logain. Greandal I don't know)
By Eek on 2005-12-28
Rating: 1
I predict that the Dark one is the creator and defeating him will destroy the one power, true power, and ultimately the wheel. Rand will have a decision to defeat the dark one and risk time unraveling or seal the bore and go through the wheel again. "You must die to live" involves that the only way for Rand to live is to destroy the wheel and ultimately kill himself. He will never be ressurected in a turning. But he will still be alive to live his life.
By lotrfantd on 2005-12-05
Rating: 8.67
I predict that Thakan'dar will be destroyed in the last battle.
By nae blis on 2005-11-05
Rating: 1
The Dark One will ressurect all of the Forsaken at or before the Last Battle. Although he technically can't bring those balefired back to life he will make duplicates of them that are almost exactely the same.
By itsinthecave on 2005-10-23
Rating: 1.36
The Dark One wins.
By Tristin on 2005-10-22
Rating: 1.58
I think Rand will break the wheel and free the world of it's struggle with the DO for all time. What do you think?
By SwimmingBird on 2005-10-19
Rating: 5
Both Odin and Thor died in the battle of Armagheddon in Norse myth. That leaves me little hope that our three heros shall survive.
By jackdrews on 2005-10-17
Rating: 4
Tarmon Gaidon will happen on a day with a solar eclipse. This is why LTT is known as Lord of the Morning and why the sun will rise twice.
By Oldest Youngling on 2005-09-20
Rating: 1.5
The first chapter of the first book will be the last chapter of the last book. ;)
By zelyoni on 2005-08-09
Rating: 1.33
Despite prophecy here there and everywhere, Rand will not die in Tarmon Gaidon and perhaps not even break the world...I think that actions of the Dark One to kill Rand (against thewill of the pattern) will result in changing the pattern in Rands favour meaning that the prophecies of his death are void, and that the breaking of the world might not need to come again.
By staylor on 2005-08-08
Rating: 3.25
The Last Battle will not be THE Last Battle. As a matter of fact it will only be the warm-up for what is to come.
By Svedmyra on 2005-08-01
Rating: 3
One crucial part of Tarmon Gaidon will happen at the Eye of the World, because why else would the Greenman have become part of that tree and Loial stopped it becoming overcome by the blight? The tree will be used to find the Eye again!
By Traveller on 2005-07-24
Rating: 3.92
I hope Rand defeats the dark one, but I beleive that Jordan is just planning on having the DO resealed into shayol ghul, to emphasize that the wheel will keep turning for eternity. I really hope Rand wins though.
By joebball1212 on 2005-06-26
Rating: 3.53
Rand will die and somehow defeat the darkone.
Good will be losing tarmon gaidon dreadfully. Mat will blow the horn at dawn on the last day, Rand will appear, so everyone knows that he has died, tell them all that he has succeeded, shout something about being the lord of the morning, then lead the final charge and turn back the dark friends.
Nyneave and Flinn will Travel to shayol ghul and recover rand's body. They'll use th Choedan Kal to heal his body and bring his soul back to it (it is floating around T'A'R after all).
By adzmc on 2005-06-14