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reaking the Wheel

by Candace: 2004-01-09 | Not yet rated

Previous Categories: The Wheel of Time

"The Wheel" is actually just a vicious cycle of events that keep happening becouse the Dark One is simply being sealed up. Rand does not want the world to go through this again, if thats the case he is just wasting his time right?

If Rand KILLS the Dark One, no more sealing, dead gone caput, then he Breaks the Wheel and the cycle will not come back around. Therefor no more Dragons no more Dragon Reborns, life goes back to as it was in the Age of Legends but no bore will be drilled, no prison to seal becouse the Dark One NO LONGER EXISTS.
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Tamyrlin: 2004-01-16

(Frenzy for Tamyrlin)
Yes, no more Dark One, but probably no more anything. Eternal nothingness: the ultimate perfection, the paradise of the Nihilist. Sounds boring to me. (and sounds more like Ishamael than Rand)

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Murrin: 2004-01-16

The destruction of the Wheel of Time is destruction of the Pattern - and the Pattern is the fabric of all existance.

Even the Dark One doesn't want to completely destroy the cycle - just replace it with a DO-controlled Pattern.

However, I'm not sure whether removing the Dark One would have that effect (*if* it could be done - and I believe it is accepted it *cannot* be done).

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Callandor: 2004-01-16

**If Rand KILLS the Dark One, no more sealing, dead gone caput, then he Breaks the Wheel and the cycle will not come back around.**

No one can kill the DO; HE IS IMMORTAL! He does not have a thread in the Pattern, hence not a solid body, to attack or destroy (and don't even try to say SH). He exists OUTSIDE the Pattern, just like the Creator. Nothing from within the Pattern, could destroy something from outside it. The DO will always be there, same with the Creator(technically, not THERE there, but you know what I mean).

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caitlin: 2004-01-16

I think the only thing Rand can do is fight the Dark One in this age. He says in a few of his dreams that they will fight till the end of time.

It does make you think, though. That the Dark One will have as many chances to take over the Wheel till the end of time. I guess Rand will have to fight him to the end of time. Kind of sucky.

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dragonsceptor: 2004-01-17

Maybe this is going way out in left field but I'm going to put it forward anyway. I seem to remember that in the conversations regarding the pattern that is stated that there are a multitude of worlds that represent the different choices that people could have made and that they are all bound by the pattern. If that is the case, could it be possible that wheel of time we hear about is bound to a larger pattern that is going through it's own wheel cycle which is in turn bound to a larger pattern and so forth on forever? I know this is very out there and I welcome your thougts.

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Rhodric: 2004-01-18

i think that the wheel of time of the RJ universe is bound to a bigger wheel of all possible multiverses, such as mirror worlds. i think in the first paragraph of every book in that "the wheel of time turns" bit there is a line about "with each turning of the seven-spoked wheel of time there is greater variation". But i think that these greater variations are part of a larger seven-spoked wheel, which is in turn part of a larger wheel, seven times seven times seven and so on to infinity. so that's an infinite timeline which begins to repeat the events within it after every seventh age and every 49 ages and every 273 ages and so on. or something similar.

Rand won't break the wheel of time, he'll just defeat the DO and perhaps seal up his prison to completion. just as an incarnation of the dragon soul has done in every previous and in all future "3rd" ages of the wheel's cycle.

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Dai Shan: 2004-01-22

According to me, it seems that there is two paths of destiny the world of the Wheel of TIme may take.

I base this postulation on Mins viewing of Rand, where she sees him join with another man and one dies.

Firstly: If the person who dies in Mins viewing is Rand as we know him, I think that this means the Wheel of Time will remain in its cyclical threading. Be that if Rand dies from losing or winning the batal.

or.

Secondly: If the spirit of Lews Therin dies I think that it could mean that he turns the wheel into linear timing.

There is a large basis of error to my arguments because if it was the death of Lews Therins Spirit, it oculd jsut mean that Rand seperates his Spirit and he lives on in the cyclical time. Could ppl please write in and add to theories or adjust or change please

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heronblade: 2004-01-22

the wheel isn't "just a vicious cycle of events that keep happening becouse the Dark One is simply being sealed up" the wheel is time itself. without the wheel nothing would come back around because nothing would be able to change. time would stop and life would end. thats like saying everyone would be happy if you destroyed death. sounds good, but death exists to balance life. no death, no life. to balance, no wheel.