he Wheel, the Creator, and the Dark One
by Alcair Dareis: 2004-04-25 | Not yet rated
The Dark One is imprisoned outside the pattern, and as an obviously powerful being, his biggest wish would be to escape. There isn't much to do against an obviously stacked Creator, and so he thinks that if he can break the wheel, then remake it, he can put a loophole or something there that will allow him to escape. This is childish in thought though, and like most children, a few things hold true. They enjoy destroying things, but don't grasp consequences. When they are told the consequences and put into time-out, it makes them sulky and something changes in them. They want to disobey, if they are harshly locked up in their room or sent to a corner. They also think that because they know the consequences, then they have control over them.
Children don't understand that certain actions are forbidden because they will not only hurt others, but will also hurt the children themselves.
The Creator, in the beginning, made everything. I don't necessarily believe it started like this, but alas, it's a theory, so here goes. It was a linear style universe, where the people went to a certain ‘heaven' and ‘hell' and stayed there for eternity. Then the Dark One, perhaps another ‘Creator' that had been spurned or shunned because he wasn't as powerful, jumped in and tried to rampage things. The Creator saw that if he continued, then his universe would soon be in the control of the Dark One. So he took the line and curved it into his wheel, where every soul was born repeatedly throughout the ages. In doing so, the Dark One found himself trapped within the pattern, unable to get away from what he had jumped into.
Now, the Dark One's permanent ‘time-out' may have been fought about for quite a while...a temper tantrum. That is why we have the times when supposedly the Dragon went to his side. They were times when he managed to cause enough problems that he ‘won'. But none of these held the key to making it linear or shattering it completely, and so he remained as he was. Trapped.
Now, the only way that he sees he might get out is to wait for the right age. I know this is far-reaching, but in the Age of Legends, no one even knew of the Dark One until they stumbled upon the ‘thinness in the pattern' and bored a hole into it. The Dark One, having gone through the cycles again, saw the pattern and ‘matured.' Now...the far-reaching stuff is that we have little mention of him trying to escape in the Age of Legends, or even to control Lews Therin. Of course there was the war, because this was an evil that the people had never seen before....but....they beat him quite easily, in my opinion, compared to everything that's continually going on now. He had seen what happened in all the other ages that he had tried to escape through and the difference now is that...he's found the correct age that will allow him to destroy and recreate, allowing him escape.
Because there are only ‘similarities' between ages, he has been unable to determine which age up until this point. I'm not sure how he figured that out, however, and therein lies my ineptitude on the entire matter, which might make this entire theory go to hell. But however he did discover it, this is the time that it all comes to a head. The Last Battle may not be the last, but it will allow the Dark One to escape and wreak his havoc on everything, all the other worlds as has been stated...and perhaps even the places outside of time. That would mean the destruction and downfall of the entire universe.
The Creator, of course, made the rules for everyone, and cannot even break them himself, but when he set the pattern into a circular motion, then he appointed souls that would be his ‘angels'. These are Heroes of the Horn, Ta'veren, and the Dragon Reborn. All play key roles when they are needed in order to lend something more than human, but less than creator. In effect, he is the gamemaster, and with a perfect understanding of the rules, sets it up so that if his creations also live by such rules, they can beat even the worst cheater, the Dark One. Now... there is also another point of interest I have fallen upon in devising this mischeif.
As a child does not realize that playing with fire will get him burned, the Dark One may not realize the full implications of what his actions may accomplish. He might become all-powerful and rule all in his darkness, with even the Creator under his heel...but the universe has been along the Wheel so many times that it does not remember how it can change into something else, such as linear. Now, this might be another thought onto why the Creator can't step in, but the main idea is this: Since the Wheel is such, then a sudden breaking might be like ripping the Wheel from the axle mid-trip, which means the entire wagon would most likely be crashing quite quickly. Even if the Dark One could pull off the Wheel mid-run and snap his own one back in place, it might not fit. Maybe his idea is actually a square or a traingle, and thus wouldn't work well enough with the other Wheels of the wagon to keep it working as smoothly as it should. It might not even fit the axle at all, and by that time, the original Wheel is gone and broken, with no replacement in sight.
Now, it's a lot to digest and wade through, but you've got this far, so let me summarize. The Dark One is in permanent ‘time-out' by trying to ‘color on the walls with crayon' where he shouldn't, and he was put there by the more powerful and mature Creator. The imprisonment only made him sullen, then so evil and vile that he would do anything to destroy the Creator's pride and joy, now in universally circular format. He thinks that if he can destroy the Wheel as it is by reaching into the pattern and jarring a few screws loose, then it will achieve what he wants, which I'm assuming is power over time and everything else in the universe. Now, if he managas to succeed in removing the current Wheel, it will either destroy everything, or, should his replacement be able to keep the universe working, give him what he wants. If there's anything else I need to go into detail on, please tell me, but that's what I've got for now. Have fun with it, I suppose.
Suravye ninto manshima taishite.
“Peace favor your sword.
- Alcair Dareis
“The Golden Spear”
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Tamyrlin: 2004-07-12
(Frenzy for Tamyrlin)
i really should let Tamyrlin field this one. He's more into the philosophy of WoT, i'm into the nuts and bolts mechanics. But the concept of the Dark One in the Time-out to end all time-outs strikes me as amusing. So here goes.
There's something almost Christian Mythos in this theory, that the Dark One is the errant child of the Creator. Very similar to the Lucifer-God relationship.
The one thing i find concerning about this theory is your idea that the Creator changed Creation from linear to cyclical as a failsafe to prevent the Dark One from escaping. Interesting solution to the problem, but why change the very nature of the Universe? And how does it jive with the "Seal the Dark One away at the moment of Creation" article of faith?
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Kadel: 2004-07-12
I think, very probably, that the Dark One and the Creator are connected, if not two opposite parts of a single whole. I mean that is kind of a running theme in WOT, isn't it? I think that without a separate power, they could go on struggling forever. Although it seems that the Creator is inactive, I believe he is guiding the wheel in his own way, as the Dark One is guiding it in another. From age to age the balance shifts and one or the other can be seen to have more of the power. For example in the age of legends the Creator has the greater advantage, in the next he has less, and so on for ages and ages. We may see and end to this struggle, or we may not.
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Callandor: 2004-07-13
**In doing so, the Dark One found himself trapped within the pattern, unable to get away from what he had jumped into.**
Uhh, hate to play the fool here....
**The Dark One is imprisoned outside the pattern, and as an obviously powerful being, his biggest wish would be to escape.**
Kind of conflicting.
**Of course there was the war, because this was an evil that the people had never seen before....but....they beat him quite easily, in my opinion, compared to everything that's continually going on now.**
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The Shadow was winning the War of Power, until the Strike at Shayol Ghul.
**He had seen what happened in all the other ages that he had tried to escape through and the difference now is that...he's found the correct age that will allow him to destroy and recreate, allowing him escape.**
So, the Dark One sees everything in an Age, remembers it, and can use it... but cannot be informed about everything in this Age, even if he has seen it in previous turnings?
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free will: 2004-07-13
Have you considered how the Dark One could break the Wheel. Basically he has to make it so that the pattern doesn't tear (otherwise the Shadow wouldn't fear balefire), but that the wheel can't weave the pattern to the correct next age. Sew so much chaos, that the world goes to a fourth age that is different than the fourth age in circular time. This could happen by preventing an event that can only happen in the third age (like the sealing of the bore), or by just delaying an event so that it can't be forgotten in time (remember that the memory of the DO has to be long gone before the next turning Lanfear opens the bore). So through shadow-spawn, the breaking, etcetera, mark the world so bad that you can't be forgotten in time, but not so bad you destory the patttern. The DO wants to be the Wheel, he wants to replace it.
The irony is that we naively assumed that Lanfear did great evil by opening the bore. I think it would be very humorous of the creator if the DO was meditating outside the pattern and about to take control of all the worlds when Lanfear taps him on the shoulder and ruins his concentration. And the DO is trying to stir up enough trouble to scare the AoLers into not tapping him next turning, and he is simultaneously (i.e. right now) starting his meditation again (for all I know it takes exactly seven ages, maybe that is why the creator made seven ages. So everything the DO does is just to prove he's a bad ass so we won't forget him so quickly. Maybe the Last Battle is really the Last because once you destory his minions and seal the bore, then the DO doesn't have the energy to continue the meditation and make us not forget him. The wars of Power are just a big deadly going away party, and Lanfear saved the Universe.
If Lanfear was fated to tap the DO, then maybe the Pattern caused the seals to weaken, so that Lanfear could be freed, because she has to be freed to die and she must die to be reborn. Which means to save the world Rand must cause Lanfear to die (by killing her or turning her against the DO, thereby making her lose her immortality and then she'll be dead before the AoL comes again. That irony at least has scads of foreshadowing.
I think it is safe to assume that the DO is extremely busy because his intelligence gathering leaves much to be desired. If most of his attention is actively devoted to breaking the wheel, then that explains that. It could even be like this theory says that the DO wanted free of his prison, and the Creator say that with enough linear he would suceed, and to give people as much time before circularity, the Creator made the period of rotation the time it takes to break free.
Also, if the key to defeating the DO, is to destory the memory of the DO, maybe the Dragon will actually have to move the continents back to what they were before the breaking even though it will kill millions. Maybe he has to create so many inventions and alternatives to the One Power that talk of magic and the DO can fade into myth fast enough. Maybe he has to focus glory on Logain so much that everyone can forget about the DO. This list goes on and on.
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Lauric: 2004-08-01
Ok, this may be a really stupid question, but have they ever actually said that the Age of Legends was the previous age? Or maybe it was the 7th, and the bore is covered by Rand's crew? They obviously are only men, so they can't match the creator, so maybe thats why theres a weak spot in the pattern in the Age of Legends, because it is where "Lews/Rand (or whoever he was at the time)" fixed it in the previous 3rd age. That would leave enough ages for the war between seanchan, randland, and whatever is left of the shadowspawn to fight themselves out and restore perfect peace as was known in the Age of Legends.
Now for why it ties into this theory, the Dark One can't see the pattern when he's holed up in the bore, we know he's not omnipotent, so he spends the "Peaceful" years trying to poke around the pattern looking for the weak spot, finds it, and gets ahold of two threads. Mierin and her Bore-drilling buddy. Possibly grabbing up the other forsaken/dreadlord threads at this point... So he plants this great new power that men AND women can tap! And it bores through the already weakened patch, starting the War of Power.
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Callandor: 2004-08-03
**Ok, this may be a really stupid question, but have they ever actually said that the Age of Legends was the previous age? Or maybe it was the 7th, and the bore is covered by Rand's crew?**
Age of Legends is the Second Age. Rand's Age is the Third Age.
**TITLE: Eye of the World
CHAPTER: 43 - Decisions and Apparitions
"Liar!" he shouted. "Father of Lies. Father of Fools if you can't do better than that. Men found you in the last Age, in the Age of Legends, and bound you back where you belong."**
And if you don't believe that, RJ:
**Q: What age # was the age of legends.
A: The age before the third age. The breaking of the world brought on the third age. The trolloc and hundred years wars were only punctuations in local history.**
What's before 3? ;)