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layne is Ileyna

by Mat "Cauthon" Umsted: 2000-11-20 | Not yet rated

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I know this has been said before, but Winter's Heart really confirms it. Of the three women in Rand's lovelife, Elayne best fits this, she can channel (no Min), she has the physical characteristics, though the last of the three to consumate, was the first of the three to catch Rand's 'eye', and will be the mother of his children, like Ileyna, not to mention the name similarities.
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Tamyrlin: 2000-11-20

I don't really know, either way, it could be, but we don't have a ton of perspective from IIeyna(or any, do we), so it is difficult to compare...but it would make sense.

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Drekan: 2002-12-05

Drawing on the preface of the WoT RPG. I have a lightly different view. I believe that Ileyna is actually all three of the women in rands life now. In the preface it says 'What one person did has been spread among many. What many people did has been compressed and given to one.'

I think that this could be applied to the dragon as well. At the start of the series, Moiraine was incredulous over three ta'veran. What if the 3 ta'veran were all some part of the dragon? Rand being the main and fulfilling the prophecies, with the others helping him( such as Mat marrying the daghuter of the nine moons, if it happens). 3 ta'veran is unusual, so would have to have some special significance. It would be interesting to know how strang ta'veran LTT was. If he was as strong ta'veran as mat, rand and perrin together, it would be a major bonus for this thoery.

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Theron: 2003-02-14

Why does the order matter, Rand does love all three of them, and they all love him, so if Elayne is Ilyena rborn, rand should love only her. (Loves seem to be spun out together, so that they can fall in love agian, like G. Cain and Briggitte.) But Rand does not just love Elayne, he loves two other women as weel. I feel that there is more synergy with what we know in the Ileyna soul split between all Rands loves theory.

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jason wolfbrother: 2003-02-14

Just because LTT loved one women does not mean Rand will love that same woman reborn. Ilyena's soul might not even born in this time. She could have been reborn numerous times. There is no evidence that she is always linked with LTT like Gaidal Cain and Birgitte. Show me the quote that proves they always appear together and you will have a new believer. Until then I remain skeptical about Ilyena's "split-into-three" soul.

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SugarBullet: 2003-11-14

Hmmm. I think the "one person spread to many" is actually referencing the way this single story will *become* all sorts of stories such as christ, king arthur, norse myth, robin hood, th matrix:revolutions... (did anyone feel like revalutions was a bad knock-off of jordan's ideas? Yeesh..)

Any way, here's my two cents. My belief is that rand loves three women in this age because there is a soul mate for him in each age, but his past soul mates are still out there reincarnated. Next age he'll love four women maybe. I believe there was a portion of jordans work talking about all the women who would share rand including even liandrin and moirane. Since Liandrin is now dead (right? or am I forgetful?) it leads one to believe that the sharing must be in another age.

Taking this premise, I would say that Avienda(sp) is his love of this age. She is Aiel and they are unique to this age and tied closely to rand. Elayne,I would agree, seems to pretty blatently share characteristics of Ilyena, and finally, Min. Ah, Min. The age before the age of legends is generally thought to be the age we live in, correct? Of the three, Min definately seems to have traits of a 20th-21st century girls. Prefers hair cut short. Prefers trousers. Loves to read as much as she can get her hands on.

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Callandor: 2003-11-15

**My belief is that rand loves three women in this age because there is a soul mate for him in each age, but his past soul mates are still out there reincarnated. Next age he'll love four women maybe.**

LTT loved only Ileyna; Lanfear was a girlfriend.

And no, Liandrin is still alive and a captive of the Seanchan.

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Zaela Sedai: 2003-11-15

Aviendha is going to have his children too.

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Sensir: 2003-11-15

its very possible that all the main char. are like birgitte and heroes that were held in TAR but that would be odd?? right? that would mean that birgitte breaking free early and keeping some memory is against conduct. But who invented conduct that can be broken so easily??? and why would there be conduct unless it was sacred. Maybe the heroes arent aloud to contact the outside world or else it may cause a paradox or they may be ripped from TAR. My point is how would they be able to be the same. Theres too many theories on people being some other person for any of them to have an idea that fits all of htem right? so what is the key here that would let them be the same if there not heroes?

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Cha Faile: 2004-12-23

If Ileyna is Elayne...would that mean that Rand will kill her??