iel and Channeling
by Flinnd: 2005-02-14 | 3 out of 10 (2 votes)
I brought this up in the “Real meaning of the Poem” theory and wanted to expand on this idea without taking that theory off topic.
Throughout the series we have been told about the differences in handling male channelers for each culture. In Randland-proper, male channelers are dealt with by the Aes Sedai (specifically, the Red Ajah)... in Seanchen they are basically executed... in the lands beyond the Aiel waste we learn that male channelers are wed to (and procreate with) female channelers before they are killed... in the Aiel society they are sent to the blight to battle the dark one. Basically, it boils down to each independent culture developing their own means of disposing of the men before they go mad.
Through Taim's recruiting process (and possibly through Rand's effects as a Ta'veren) we have seen a relatively large number of male channelers arriving at the black tower. This is quite contrary to the beliefs of some Aes Sedai regarding the channeling ability in the world.
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TITLE: Shadow Rising
CHAPTER: 31 - Assurances
Sheriam believes we may have spent the last three thousand years culling the ability out of humankind by gentling every man who can channel we find. The proof of it, she says, is how very few men we do find. Why, even a hundred years ago the records say there were two or three a year..."
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In spite of this claim it seems rather obvious that the channeling ability hasn't been reduced as much as the Aes Sedai would like to believe.
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TITLE: Crossroads of Twilight
CHAPTER: 30 - What the Oath Rod Can Do
"You think you can talk the Asha'man into accepting the bond?" Egwene could not keep the incredulity out of her voice. "Aside from that, who is going to do this bonding? Even if every sister who doesn't have a Warder took an Asha'man, and every Green took two or three, there aren't enough sisters. That's if you can find one who doesn't mind being bonded to a man who is going to go mad."
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Add to this the fact that there are a good number of Wise Ones with the ability to channel (and channel at least moderately well).
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TITLE: Lord of Chaos
CHAPTER: 54 - The Sending
"There are also ninety-four Wise Ones," Amys said. "They are the strongest in the One Power of those near the city." That came out reluctantly—he had the idea Aiel women did not like to admit they could channel—but her voice picked up.
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(Note that in this situation it is only the STRONGEST of the channeling wise ones that go to rescue Rand and that none of the channeling apprentices are included, meaning that the number 94 given is only a small sampling of the channeling women amongst the Aiel)
Putting all of these thoughts together, it seems quite possible that there are a good number of Aiel men that develop the ability (whether sparking or learning) to channel. Previously, we've been told (and shown) that male channelers amongst the aiel go to the blight to battle the dark one. I find it rather odd, though, that in the midst of the focus on male channelers and their amnesty in Randland-proper that Rand hasn't tried to encourage the Aiel to send male channelers there instead of sending them to their death. In fact, we apparently have no mention of this line of thinking on Rand's part. He seems to completely forget that there are men amongst the Aiel that could channel. On top of this, there is no indication of any Aiel joining the Black Tower. Also... in all of the discussions of who has deserted Rand's Aiel (either to join the Shaido or because of the Bleakness), no one has mentioned male channelers leaving to fight in the Blight.
So... here's the indisputable facts as I see them:
1. Channeling abilities exist amongst men in at least close to the same proportions as amongst the women
2. Aiel (men and women) are not excluded from the ability to channel
3. There are several hundred women who can channel amongst the aiel
4. Rand hasn't mentioned anything about male aiel channelers
5. The Black Tower apparently has no male aiel channelers
6. No recent mention has been made of male aiel channelers going to fight in the blight
*Putting facts 1, 2, and 3 together would seem to tell me that if there are several hundred women amongst the aiel that can channel then there are most likely a group of males amongst the aiel that can channel but haven't been sent to the blight yet.
*Putting together facts 4, 5, and 6 would seem to tell us that male aiel channelers are completely MIA.
Given Rand's desire for ALL men who can channel to be safe from the oppression of Aes Sedai (in Randland-proper), it seems logical that Rand would have the same desire for any male channelers amongst the Aiel. I can't see Rand standing by idly while aiel men fling themselves hopelessly amongst the dangers of the blight just because they have the ability to channel. Rand talks about male channelers as being a precious commodity too much for him to take an apathetic outlook towards the aiel in this regard.
Now that I've given you the backup for my theory... here's my theory:
Rand is gathering together Aiel male channelers (perhaps with the assistance of Logain). These male channelers will be the backbone of Logain's Black Tower Reformation Force that will secure the black tower for the dragon reborn and will evict all those who are not loyal to Rand.
I'm absolutely convinced that male aiel channelers will be involved in the upcoming plot. I'm willing to bend, though, on their specific involvement. I mention Logain and the reformation of the black tower only as one of multiple possibilities for these aielmen channelers to come into play.
Other notable possible scenarios:
* Aielmen channeling is kept secret until the last battle (Rand's “Trump Card”)
* Rand has been waiting to train/recruit aiel male channelers until after the taint was cleansed (meaning he hasn't started yet)
* The Aiel are developing the ability on their own (without the direct involvement of Rand) - note: I've considered this to be a possible meaning of the siswai'aman, although have recently gone away from that as I found out that some women gai'shain wear the red headband (TITLE: Lord of Chaos CHAPTER: 46 - Beyond the Gate - He noticed a small thing as well. As many *women* as *men* in the white robes wore the headband, and men in the drab coats and breeches, but no Maidens that he saw. Gaul had told him a little about the Aiel, but he had never mentioned the headbands.)
If you have any other scenarios where male aiel channelers could come into play, let me know. Of all the possible scenarios, Logain and the Aiel reclaiming the black tower is the one that I lean towards the most.
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Tamyrlin: 2005-02-23
(Frenzy for Tamyrlin)
Rand is ignoring the Black Tower. Logain points that out in blunt terms during his conversation with Rand in CoT. This neglect, we are led to believe, is due to Rand lacking the time to do anything about it.
Why would Rand start the Black Tower then abandon it to Taim, just to start the same concept elsewhere with only the Aielmen?
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Callandor: 2005-02-23
**I find it rather odd, though, that in the midst of the focus on male channelers and their amnesty in Randland-proper that Rand hasn't tried to encourage the Aiel to send male channelers there instead of sending them to their death.**
Eh, things slip peoples' minds. Rand has forgotten a few things more important than the Aiel most likely have about as many potential male channelers as any society, but he also has a lot more things to deal with at the same time ;) I just take it to be one of the things that will take time. Culture change generally takes a long time (Rand has been making some big changes fast however). And I can easily see Shara, Seanchan, and the Aiel all changing their views on male channeling a bit later or possibly along the same timeline than Randland proper.
***Putting facts 1, 2, and 3 together would seem to tell me that if there are several hundred women amongst the aiel that can channel then there are most likely a group of males amongst the aiel that can channel but haven't been sent to the blight yet.**
Have to remember that channeling can be latent. A vast, vast, VAST, majority of channelers, male and female, are learners and not active sparkers. All male channelers prior to the founding of the Black Tower (with the possible exception of Taim... ;)) were sparkers. The Aiel share the same proportions most likely.
The Aiel men that go fight the Dark One in the Blight (the way that they spin it), are the sparkers of the society. The learners go unrecognized because they do not channel until being taught how to do it.
**I'm absolutely convinced that male aiel channelers will be involved in the upcoming plot. I'm willing to bend, though, on their specific involvement. I mention Logain and the reformation of the black tower only as one of multiple possibilities for these aielmen channelers to come into play.**
They could be a plot means, but again, they'd all have to be trained from scratch. Granted it can be done to make good weapons in a couple of months (Asha'man evidence of that), but it still takes that amount of time, and they need to be recruited and tested, and they need to accept what they are going to be doing culturally (by that I mean, they need to accept they won't go off to the Blight).
I can very easily see the Aiel (regular Aiel) and the Asha'man (can toss in the Leigon of the Dragon too) becoming a world wide policing force of the Fourth Age, but that's later, not now. Male Aiel channelers I believe will come later.
**The Aiel are developing the ability on their own (without the direct involvement of Rand)**
The Aiel male channelers would've been suffering from the Taint until WH, and they wouldn't really know what to do or have the concentration of knowledge like what the Black Tower is getting. Plus, again, culturally, the Aiel would never accept it at this point. It's their believe that when they spark, they have been chosen to fight the Dark One, and they go off to do their duty. They don't sit around and train others ;)
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Yaga Shura: 2005-02-23
Nice theory! One reason that Rand might leave the Balck Tower to be corrupted by Taim, and then start the same thing with the Aiel, might be because the Aiel are a lot more loyal than the wetlanders. Maybe Rand is waiting for all the Asha'man who aren't 100% with him to run to Taim, then for his enemies to assume he has lost a lot of his strength, only for the Aiel to turn around and point out that actually, no, he still has a lot of men who can channel.
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WinespringBrother: 2005-02-23
That would be an interesting twist. However, there are a few issues that need to be resolved. 1, why do the Aiel male channelers go to the Blight? Is it part of ji'e'toh, and if so then nothing will stop them from going; otherwise, if it is just some custom due to the taint, then maybe it is possible. 2, someone will need to test the non-sparkers. Will they want to go through that process? 3, will they want to join the black tower or even learn saidin channeling in general?
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bigjellybeans: 2005-02-24
Good theory, the only thing is that Rand hasn't had too many chapters to himself since the cleansing. The male half was cleansed and he had one chapter where he talked to Logain and that was it. COT was Rands turn to be all but even acknowledged like Perrin in TFOH and Mat in TPOD. I think however that we will see perhaps something of this in the next book.
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: 2005-02-25
We know why we dont see many Aiel channelers. With Aes Sedai, we know that only a very small percentage have the spark inborn. Since only the ones with the spark inborn will be found, we know why not many male channelers are found. In the waste, we dont get much in the way of numbers, we can safely assume they send a dozen or so people out ever decade or so. The reason we see so many male channelers in Randland proper is that we have the Black Tower making an extremely inclusive search for male channelers without the spark (but wth the ability to learn). This is in contrast to the White Tower, which traditionally waited for women to come to them. After the Salidar Aes Sedai begin to actively search, we know that they get almost 1000 novices (compared to the 100 or so in the Tower when Egwene was there). This is because they have begun to actively search. So basically, we dont see any male channelers because no one is looking for them on the level Taim is for Randland male channelers. We can assume that there are male Aiel who can channel, probably hundreds of them, but we havent seen them because no one is looking. We know Rand doesn't have time to, Taim thinks very lowly of the Aiel, and the Aiel themselves only find the very small percentage who have the spark inborn.
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Satin alEllien Moonsong: 2005-02-25
I've thought this for a while now, but i have manage to give it anough cohesion to be fit to post P, the sheer numbers of Aiel are staggering, and there are a great many men who aren't warrior and, therefore, didn't follow rand out of the waste. we may see Aiel travelling into the waste to do a little recruiting among their own people ;)
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Garayur: 2005-03-08
Decent theory, but many of you are giving Rand too much credit, although Rand can come up with some surprising plans he is still only human, he has ignored the black tower because he hasn't had time to deal with it. If he had a plan about bringing out Taims people he will not form it until now. if he was worried about it before he would never have let it happen.
on the Aiel, it probably hasn't occured to Rand to look for channelers and with so many leaving on thier own nobody would notice if the sparkers went to the blight. It should be fairly simple for Rand to convince the Aiel to train Male Channelers because the sparkers go the the waste in order to protect the other Aiel from thier Channeling and hurt the shadow as much as possible before they die or go mad. All Rand has to do is point out that they won't go mad now and that they will be fighting the Dark One.
It is unlikely that there is any taining program among the Aiel either because of Rand or among themselves. Rand doesn't pay enough attention to the Aiel to start one and since the sparkers leave as soon as it is discovere they can channel there is nobody to train anyone. one sidenote, it is more likely that Sparkers leave on thier own out of honor than they are sent by the wise ones unless the sparkers refuse to go.
I agree that Rand might use the Aiel to fight the Black Tower now that he knows it is corrupted, he needs a pool of channelers that have not been corrupted by Taim and the Aiel are such a resource.
Among the Aiel there are probably much more channelers than in other populations. only sparkers leave and the Wise Ones seem to have no problem about bearing children. In Jordans World of the Wheel book he says that in the Age of Legends the channelers and possible channelers make up about 3% of the population but in modern times it is about 1%. among the Aiel there has been no culling of the channelers like in Randland. In Randland the Aes sedai have been rmoving the Female Channelers from the population. Aes Sedai only rarely have children seriously reducing the channeling gene pool. the reason the Black tower is having so much sucess is only sparkers have been removed from the male bloodline. so theoretically there are more male channelers than female. There is a problem with this theory though because if the same gene is responsible for both sexes channeling then the number will be fairly even. either way the Aiel should have a higher percentage of channelers.
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varthalon: 2006-04-18
I was sitting in bed, unable to sleep thinking about something very much like this and did a web search and found this theory. I think it very odd that Rand, who trusts the Aiel much more than other people. Would he really forget about them? Well perhaps. The Aiel have never needed his protection against the White Tower, and thus didn't need his amnesty, but why have none of them been recuited to the Black tower, or shown up there on their own.
What I was thinking was that a new warrior society could be formed for Aiel men who could channel (I toyed with the idea that it could be co-ed as well, which might fit the siswai'aman, but I doubt the Wisewomen would roll over for that one). The problem that I see in it is that I don't see the Aiel allowing a 'wetlander' like Logain to teach them. They would have to start from scratch or somehow convince Rand to spend the time to get them started.