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eeding of the One Power

by dave: 2003-05-01 | Not yet rated

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Ok, just finnished reading Crossroads of Twilight and some thoughts just stuck in my head.

If anyone out there has read Dragonlance – The War of Souls you have probally already thought of this but anyway. The plot of the War of Souls trilogy is like this: Magic in the world is failing, no one knows why, until some of the main characters discovers that ghost are feeding of the magic, sucking it out of the casters so to say.

I belive the same thing is happening in Randland, here are some points to strenghten this theory.

1 – Egwene thinks about the weevils in the meat, meat that was warded with saidar. Somehow saidar failed. It is also said somewhere else that wards where failing. They had holes, I think that was the correct term.

2 – Ghosts are suddenly popping out at the same time this is commented on. The town of So Habor, the maid at the mansion Elayne visits sees one, Mat actualle jumps out of the way of some. Coincidence? I think the souls of the dead are walking again somehow, feeding on saidar, and possibly saidin.

3 – The ghosts are sighted close to people who can channel. The ghost the maid sees is in the same room as Elayne, who can channel.

The ghost Kireyin sees, which also an AS sees.

The ghosts Mat meets, all heading towards Luca's show, where there are 3 AS and 3 sul'dam.

Maybe they are all hanging around, hoping they might channel so they can feed, take, turn the power into milk, whatever.

It could be true, then again...

I disregarded this theory myself, thinking about plagiarism. But RJ started writing WoT long before the tWoS was written, and he claims he's always known how the story would go so... It was originally his idea, or something... I seem to be having problems wording this right... Just sleepy, anyway, onwards.

Now, the most innteresting point; Rands problems grabbing saidin and LTT trying to grab it.

First I thought it was just the taint causing the nausea, but the taint is supposedly gone now, and he's still having problems.

LTT is dead, and he can't come back as a ghost ‘cause Rand has his soul. He is LTT reborn, and has the same soul in a way. But LTT has also come back but is “trapped” in Rand since they have the same soul. Is this the reason Rand is having problems... LTT is trying to feed directly off Rand when he's grabbing the Source. He also tries to grab the source himself, possibly to feed?

Just some thoughts... any one agree?

P.S. Has anyone played Drakan? There are assasins there, corps-soilders, who are sent by the Bad Guy, The Soulless the call ‘em. And a Dragon and his rider is Bonded. WoT fans in the staff maybe...
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Tamyrlin: 2003-05-09

You make some good points. If we remember, when the girls tried to fix the weather, the DO went to the other extreme with the weather. Since he can touch the world is it possible that the DO, after Rand cleansed the taint, is trying to somehow disrupt the flow of the OP to the world? Or maybe the bonds between the world of the living and the world of the dead are breaking down...

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scion2: 2003-05-09

Well it is a neat idea I think that we learn that the "weeviled" food was taken from So Habor where they were selling food with weevils in them already. I think (again I am just guessing) that Egwene actually pointed out that the weevils were probably already in the food before they were warded.

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Callandor: 2003-05-10

The weevils appear as early as WH in Caemlyn, and rats also start entering Tar Valon in the same book.

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The Leveler: 2003-05-10

I think the reasin that the keepings are failing is that while Saidar and Sadidn are SUPPOSEDLY infinite, the Choedan Kal used up a lot, and it's taking time to regenerate. Rand's nauesa spells are caused by the True Power used by Moridin in Shadar Logarth, the side wounds leaking into him, or an overdose of taint during the Cleansing of the Source.

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dave: 2003-05-10

Yeah, scion2, the weevils may already have been there before the warding, true. But why would the people of So Habor sell "weeviled" food. It is clear they knew of the weevils (the reluctancy to go too the warehouse) but I don't think they put them there. What's the point in that?

And someone (I can't for the life of me remember who, but I'm fairly certain it was an AS) commented on some other wards failing, peices of it were just... gone.

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mattmcl: 2003-05-12

I took the incidents of weevils, the crazy weather, the failing wards in the White Tower that kept rats from entering from the lower levels and the many instances of ghosts (in So Habor, and the servants seeing ghosts in Caemlyn and Cairhien) as evidence of the seals around the Dark One's prison breaking down.

As the seals deteriorate further, the Dark One is able to touch the world more readily. I seem to remember in the earlier books in the series, one of the many names that humans gave to the Dark One was the "Lord of the Grave", or something along those lines... Now that the seals are weakened, the Dark One can touch the world, allowing ghosts to wander freely.

Another idea concerning the failing weaves, we know that the Dark One's representative, Shaidar Haran is able to cut off peoples' abilities to touch the source using the True Power. Perhaps as the Dark One is able to touch the world more easily, he is able to create 'holes' in weaves that allow rats to enter the White Tower or weevils to enter grain that has been shielded by Aes Sedai?

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rubbernilly: 2003-05-15

Put this together with the "Shadar Haran is the Dark One" theory and you might begin to see why the One Power is failing.

1) The One Power does not exist around SH; it is not a shield, channelers comment - to themselves - that it just isn't there. As SH gets stronger, which is to say for purposes of this theory that the DO is getting stronger, he is effecting things on a much wider scale. If SH prohibits the OP around his immediate vicinity, the comparison is an easy one to make as to what is happening to the OP elsewhere - Keepings not... keeping, wards failing, etc.

2) The One Power, saidar and saidin are what drive the Wheel of Time. Now, if the DO's goal was to kill time itself, to stop the Wheel, then it also stand to reason that he would have a negative impact on wards and keepings, etc. Especially, if he were SH, that it would be very pronounced where SH was (the black hole of OP).

3) If the logic holds that the pattern is the prison of the DO, then he would be antithetical to the pattern. Where the pattern is driven by the OP, wherever the DO could lay his hand (or SH's hand), there would be none.

I know this is a little off the mark for this theory, but I am trying to link the "SH = DO" theory and the "Feeding on OP" theory. They may well be related... the stronger SH (as the DO gets), the more his influence grows over the OP.

I will post this on the other thread as well, to see what discussion I can raise there.

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Vander: 2003-10-07

im not so sure that the dark one can effect the OP that much, if he could youd think there'd be evidence that it happened in the AoL

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Caramoor: 2003-10-08

The DO did affect the OP. He put the Taint on Saidin.