hardcore fan freaks of the wheel of time

art by Darrell K. Sweet
Minimize Maximize

Theoryland Resources

WoT Interview Search

Search the most comprehensive database of interviews and book signings from Robert Jordan, Brandon Sanderson and the rest of Team Jordan.

Wheel of Time News

An Hour With Harriet

2012-04-30: I had the great pleasure of speaking with Harriet McDougal Rigney about her life. She's an amazing talent and person and it will take you less than an hour to agree.

Read the interview

The Bell Tolls

2012-04-24: Some thoughts I had during JordanCon4 and the upcoming conclusion of "The Wheel of Time."

Read More

Theoryland Community

Members: 7653

Logged In (0):

Newest Members:johnroserking, petermorris, johnadanbvv, AndrewHB, jofwu, Salemcat1, Dhakatimesnews, amazingz, Sasooner, Hasib123,

Theoryland Tweets

Theories

Recent Comments

Last ten comments at Theoryland.

The Bore is in Tel’aran’rhiodIf DO was able to alter reality with power...by Amaentes

Callandor's PurposeJust wanted to comment on something in reg...by Joram

Mat's luck is caused by the daggerSorry to necro this thread, but I was just...by Joram

The Real SlayerI was just thinking that since the Finns l...by jimbop79

Verin Compelled AlannaThis was alluded to early on, but let me s...by jimbop79

When the Dark One winsAlthough the books are over here is what m...by pjrobertson

Moghedien Raises the DeadThis has a lot of spoilers, so please, if ...by NaeblisSunshine

Mat & the Horn of ValereWow, found a link to this while purging my...by shaihalud

Breaking the SealsNow see, Rand isn't the only one who wants...by MMustafa

Nakomi's Soul Is BrownIn the epilogue as rand is carrying Moridins ...by Waxer

Recent Theories

Last ten theories at Theoryland.

Home | Index | Archives | Help

he Wild Eye Theory

by Galadriel: 2003-01-23 | Not yet rated

Previous Categories: Prophecies, Foretellings, and Talents

Now, I know this is out there, but I thought it might be interesting to kick up some dust.

When Moridin is playing stones, he remarks about how Rand resembles the Fisher.

"Perhaps the Fisher did come from some dim remnant of a memory of Rand al'Thor, the shadow of a shadow."

But this is how the Fisher is described:

"The Fisher was always worked as a man, a bandage blinding his eyes and one hand pressed to his side, a few drops of blood dripping through his fingers."

The wound at his side is self explanatory, but what about the bandage over his eyes? Crazy theory number 1 says that Rand is going to lose his eyesight, or possibly his eyes. Gruesome thought, but you can't channel if you can't see the flows, right? So how does he get better?? From Mat. Egwene once saw Mat in Tel'aran'roid. He laid his eye on a balance scale and on the other side rested...something big, like the salvation of the world. Rand will lose his sight, and Mat will "give up half the light of the world (one of his eyes) to save the world".

I'm not insane....not yet (maniacal laugh).
You cannot rate theories without first logging in. Please log in.

Comments

1

Tamyrlin: 2003-01-25

Umm...okay, the blood dripping from the side can be directly correlated to the injury, so it is plausible to suggest that the bandaged eyes might be directly related to a real injury that has yet to occur. But I am not sure that I believe that you can't channel without your eyes. Maybe a blind person would have a hard time learning, but since Rand knows a ton of weaves, it wouldn't appear that he needs to see anything. For example, when he was in the box, it was pitch black, for all intents and purposes he was "blind", but he could still feel the knots, and he was still able to channel the weaves to break himself out. But, obviously if he doesn't have his sight, it would be a bit difficult to fight his enemies. Now that I am done humoring your humorous theory...eye transplantation, I don't think Jordan is going there. :)

2

Galadriel: 2003-01-25

Well personally I think there's a difference between darkness and blindness. If no light is getting to the eyes, then you can't "see" (as when Rand was in the box), but blindness would be when the eyes themselves don't work even if there is light. I think this is an important distinction because it's apparent that a channeler can "see" things like a glow around a person(in the case of women) or the strands of a weave. In fact, the books refer to many instances where sight is important or even necessary to a weave. Take for instance, when Egwene was eavesdropping on the Aes Sedai in Cairhien while apprenticing to the wise ones. She had to see the building for the eavesdropping weave to work. If it wasn't necessary, then she could have eavesdropped from the safety of the Aiel camp, and not worried about being caught. It's not necessary see a weave to maintain one, but I think it is to form it initially. Take gateways for instance. In order to form a gateway, it's necessary to memorize the area. In one of Rand's POVs he mentions that you have to memorize everything in relation to each other in the immediate area before you can form a gateway. He thought it seemed odd that you didn't need to know your destination as well as your starting point. Well, if blinded, there would be no way for him to really memorize the ground in order to form a gateway. In Path Of Daggers, Elayne was holding onto the the threads of the gateway while trying to escape the Seanchan. "Birgitte heaved her into her saddle more than helped her. Backward, just like Aviendha! "You have to see," she explained" Another example is from Lord of Chaos where Elayne is trying to spin a hole through a ward against eavesdropping. "Elayne was kneeling on her own bed, head and shoulders out the window into the tiny alley behind the house. From there she had just the slimmest line of sight to the rear of the Little Tower, where most of the Sitters were already receiving the Tower envoy this morning. A slight view, but enough to see a bit of the ward against eavesdropping that enclosed the inn." This shows that she needed to "see" the ward in order to work through it. Let's imagine Elayne is blind. If she was in her bed staring at a wall, wouldn't be the same to her if she were standing right in front of the ward? Can a building block the visual of a weave, but not her own eyelids? It seems pretty reasonable to assume that sight is required to at least form weaves if not maintain them.

3

jason wolfbrother: 2003-01-25

Why does the bandage over his eyes have to refer to Rand. LTT was another incarnation of the Dragon and he did not go blind or get a wound in his side that we know of. Maybe the 4th Age Dragon will be blinded in a battle with that Age's Ishamael and that will lead to the bandage over the eyes. Just a thought:)

4

Anubis: 2003-01-27

Maybe the fisher is just blind to what is really going on. Rand thinks he will fight the last battle and possibly win, but moridin seems to be controlling him with out him having a clue. maybe that is the bandage.

5

silverwolf: 2003-03-16

Does anyone remember when Tarna told Nynaeve about her block? She couldn't channel with her eyes open. This made it difficult to channel since she couldn't see the weaves, but it wasn't impossible. Think of it this way: it is difficult for a blind person to learn to write but they can learn, and most seeing people can continue to write even if they lose their sight.

CONCLUSION: Blindness makes channeling difficult, not impossible.

6

kathleen: 2003-03-19

didn't min view or egwene dream rand walking on a deserted lane as a blind man dressed as a beggar?

7

anderwarrick: 2003-06-06

maybe the thing with the bandage over his eyes, and the thing with Rand being a blind beggar kind of thing. he acts blind and his wound starts to open, so he holds his hand to his side as blood starts to drip through, tada! you have the fisher king.

8

Saldean Farm Boy: 2004-07-29

Here is a slightly off kilter take on this one. We know Mat and Perrin are required for Rand to do what ever he needs to do. Maybe Mat giving up one of his eyes to save Rand was drawn into legend as Rand loosing his sight. Hence the fisher is blindfolded and has the injury to his side.

RJ often shows how events happen and are skewed in the telling and retelling, but the core of it remains true.

9

Oatman: 2004-07-30

Silverwolf, I beleive Tarna said she couldnt embrace the source without her eyes closed. It is impossible to channel without seeing the weave. That fact is repeated many times throughout the series. I like the idea of Mat giving one of his eyes to Rand, but there is to much evidence tieing Mats eye to Moraines rescue to give it much weight.

10

Aiel Finn: 2005-02-22

You're probably right in Mat being the one to lose an eye, not Rand. Remember that the prophecies are supposed to talk only about the dragon, but they talk about Mat too as though he were the dragon in that part. I think that the part of the fisher is played by a combination of all three of them.